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construct Pioneer100© Member  The Boy Next Door
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Broadway Baptist Church, Fort Worth, TX has been the occasional locus of discussion about how the church should treat its gay members. This should not be surprising. This church has an undeserved reputation of being a liberal congregation. (It's really a moderate congregation.) In the past, the discussion has been rather low-key and internal. Not anymore! It has now made the pages of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Not only that but also my past conversations with Broadway finally surfaced as background to the current story. The current issue is how the church's planned pictorial directory should picture the acknowledged gay couples who are members of the church, i.e. whether they should be pictured together as a household or whether they should be pictured individually. Some have even suggested that all members' pictures be dropped from the directory in order to avoid conflict. Here is the link to the story. My statements are reported under my real name David Reed. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/305586.html
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Interesting on several levels. Thanks for posting it, DAVID. 
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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Good for you! You took a stand and fought for what you believe in regardless of possible flack! 
Justice for Mark.....Imprison Employers Who Hire ILLEGALS! |
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sumnom Original500© Member 
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Hey, that's great. It's good to see your name in the news!
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Impedimentus Original500© Member  Terricolous Creature
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gay church members pictures should appear in a pictorial church directory Can you catch homosexuality by looking at pictures of gay church members or is it only spread by sneezing?
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construct Pioneer100© Member The Boy Next Door
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Well, Impedimentus, Broadway's (unstated) problem is over the interpretation of Article I of the Southern Baptist Convention's bylaws that says that no church that "affirms, approves, or endorses" homosexuality may be a Southern Baptist church. The quoted terms have never been explicitly defined. The question here is whether including pictures of gay couples in a pictorial directory of the church constitutes affirming, approving, or endorsing. Compare Betty Price's comments in the article with those of Charles Wade. Ms. Price believes that nothing short of hiring a homosexual violates Article I. Pastor Wade understands the provision more broadly. (Make no mistake. Betty Price is no advocate against the injustices suffered by gay folk at the hands of Baptists. I know Ms. Price. She is no friend of gay people.)
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Impedimentus Original500© Member Terricolous Creature
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Many so called Christians seem to believe in and even preach intolerance. Like Abba Anthony perhaps they should spend a few years with stones in their mouths learning the value of silence, followed by a few more years wandering in the desert to get their minds focused on other more spiritual things?
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construct Pioneer100© Member The Boy Next Door
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Yesterday, the Fort Wroth Star-Telegram published an opinion piece about the Broadway Baptist Church pictorial directory written by Allen Patterson, who is a member of that church. I thought it was very will done. Here is a link. http://www.star-telegram.com/245/story/333268.html Last edited on 12:56 pm by construct |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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I also think it's a very well written article. It covers all views on the subject. My personal opinion is, I see two correct points of view. 1. Yes God is suppose to be forgiving, therefore I can understand those who feel it would be a step in the right direction for the church. 2. If being Gay is a sin, then why would you openly want "sin" to be in a picture? Sounds to me like the church needs to decide whether it IS a sin, or NOT! That's the discussion that needs to take place.
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construct Pioneer100© Member The Boy Next Door
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Broadway decided yesterday to postpone its decision about how or whether to include photographs of its gay couples. Here is the Fort Worth Star-Telegram story. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/337449.html I also appeared on last night's newscast for the Dallas ABC affiliate commenting on this story.
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Unfortunately I am making these comments without having had the opportunity to read the article but it seems as if FGP comment cuts to the core issue..."If being Gay is a sin, then why would you openly want "sin" to be in a picture? Sounds to me like the church needs to decide whether it IS a sin, or NOT! That's the discussion that needs to take place."
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construct Pioneer100© Member The Boy Next Door
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pmh1nic wrote:Unfortunately I am making these comments without having had the opportunity to read the article but it seems as if FGP comment cuts to the core issue..."If being Gay is a sin, then why would you openly want "sin" to be in a picture? Sounds to me like the church needs to decide whether it IS a sin, or NOT! That's the discussion that needs to take place." And that is precisely the discussion that cannot take place if Broadway is to maintain its affiliation with the Southern Baptist Convention. The decision about the pictures must be made without the conversation about whether being gay is a sin becoming central in order for the church to maintain its diverse affiliations. This church's situation is extremely delicate. You need to read the articles, pmh, before replying with an uninformed, ideological answer.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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Construct Unfortunately the site where the article is located is block at my worksite. If you can post the text I'd gladly read it and comment. But based on your comments it seems that part of the decision is whether or not the church really wants to maintain its affiliation with the Southern Baptist Convention. If the church is clear that the Conventions position on homosexuality is that it is sin why would it want to walk the tightrope on the issue to maintain that affiliation?
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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Is adultery a no-no? If pictures of adulterers were not allowed I bet the directory would be shortened dramatically.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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"Is adultery a no-no? If pictures of adulterers were not allowed I bet the directory would be shortened dramatically." Silly, silly. Adultery, with the TREMENDOUS damage it has done in our society, is a no-no. But I'd like to know how you would know that a man or woman in a picture were committing adultery.
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