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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > 24's Religion & Philosophy > Whether and how gay church members pictures should appear in a pictorial church directory |
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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pmh1nic wrote: But I'd like to know how you would know that a man or woman in a picture were committing adultery. I was thinking of borrowing the magical powers you use to determine that they were gay.
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24hn "I was thinking of borrowing the magical powers you use to determine that they were gay." Have you totally lost it? Again, I haven't had the opportunity to read the article but my sense is we are talking about pictures of two men or two women described in a scenerio where it would be assumed they were a "couple", otherwise there would be no controversy.
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pmh1nic wrote: 24hn I didn't know we were talking about people posing together with an indication that they love each other. That would be terrible.
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24hn "I didn't know we were talking about people posing together with an indication that they love each other. That would be terrible." If you hadn't notice the issue of homosexuality in this article is related to a religious institution and how they are grappling with the issue. The article is NOT about YOUR opinion of homosexuality.
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pmh1nic wrote: 24hn I just hope they grapple with the terrible notion of two adults loving each other and posing for a picture well. Let's all pray for their wisdom in this matter.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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Well I take issue with constructs comment implying that I either didn't read the article or that I didn't understand it! I thought my concerned answer was appropriate...............if the church has already decided it's a sin, then what's the point? Start your own church affiliation. Unless you want to raise the issue to the public eye like I'm trying to do with my cause. If that's it, I guess the church elders or leaders have the last say about "their book"
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24hn "I just hope they grapple with the terrible notion of two adults loving each other and posing for a picture well." From the Southern Baptist veiwpoint it wouldn't matter if they were "two adults loving each other". From the Southern Baptist perspective homosexuality, just like adultery or sexual relationships outside of marriage, is sin.
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pmh1nic wrote: 24hn Well apparently it may matter to them that it just two consenting adults loving each other who may deserve the dignity of equal treatment. I assume they may be grappling with it because, like other "rules" from archaic land, some may be outdated and inappropriate. I don't know for sure of course, but perhaps they could be grappling with it because there is some little seed of modern awareness in them about the immorality of discriminating against (or rendering as second class, something God did not intend, etc.) people that happen to be attracted to, and in love with, someone of the same sex. They may be realizing that the gender of the person doesn't necessarily determine the value of their love. They may be adjusting like organizations always have. We'll have to watch and see.
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24hn "Well apparently it may matter to them that it just two consenting adults loving each other who may deserve the dignity of equal treatment." It doesn't.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Frank, let me ask you this. If the Baptist Church clearly says this lifestyle "is" a sin, then why stay in that church? Why not find a church that believes in everything you do? If people want to "mold" a church belief just because it "fits their lifestyle", it doesn't appear that the core of that church has any foundation. People believe the Bible is Gods word. Unless he's standing in front of you, how can you change HIS word?
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pmh1nic wrote: 24hn It must matter or they wouldn't be grappling, I would think.
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foxglovepress wrote: Frank, let me ask you this. If the Baptist Church clearly says this lifestyle "is" a sin, then why stay in that church? Why not find a church that believes in everything you do? If people want to "mold" a church belief just because it "fits their lifestyle", it doesn't appear that the core of that church has any foundation. People believe the Bible is Gods word. Unless he's standing in front of you, how can you change HIS word? Perhaps they interpreted "His word" incorrectly in the sense that it is not meant for today like so many of the items. For example, I don't think people from other faiths will be penalized by God. But to answer your question ... I don't think one should try to mold a church. I don't even think Churches are required. But if things are open to interpretation then I believe it is a healthy process to explore it. Remember, it is just PEOPLE who are interpreting and assuming. People are wrong and have been wrong.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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24HourNut wrote: foxglovepress wrote:Frank, let me ask you this. If the Baptist Church clearly says this lifestyle "is" a sin, then why stay in that church? Why not find a church that believes in everything you do? If people want to "mold" a church belief just because it "fits their lifestyle", it doesn't appear that the core of that church has any foundation. People believe the Bible is Gods word. Unless he's standing in front of you, how can you change HIS word? I agree totally! Who then should decide about the "interpretation?" The Church founders and members who have lived by this 'interpretation" or the members who want it to change? There's a problem right there. Unless this group can actually convince the old Baptist teachings they have been wrong. My feeling would be, they need to find text from all kinds of religious writings, and interpret them! If in the coarse they can convince the Baptist Church they're wrong, good luck, they don't have a chance! Of course then you "would" be molding a church! 
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Remember, go back in time and you can find Churches that were issuing slave tags for the slaves they owned! So, Churches do change.
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I have to admit, this is always something I've had a hard time understanding. If your congregation is basically giving you the finger, what would the point be of staying? I'm not an activist at heart. If I found a group of people that looked askance at hanidcapped people, I'd just tell them to go chase themselves and seek other company. I don't see any of these Southern churches as particularly friendly to homosexuals. I respect the stand you're trying to make, but I don't paritcularly think they deserve your fellowship, Construct.
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