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There is movement to recognize the social and emotional intelligence, complexity, and sensitivity of some primates, like apes.  How do you feel about that?  To wet your appetite, I provided a BBC news item below and a related article below that, but please, bring in other evidence and opinions related to these particular articles or not.




Apes and humans have common ancestors but should they have the same rights? An international movement to give them "personhood" is gathering pace.

"Apes are special because they are so closely related to us," says Mr Redmond. "Chimpanzees and bonobos are our joint closest living relatives, differing by only one per cent of DNA - so close we could accept a blood transfusion or a kidney. Gorillas are next, then orang-utans."

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6505691.stm





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Scientist finds the beginnings of morality in primate behavior.  LINK:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/science/20moral.html?_r=1&oref=slogin




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Yes! And, I think they should be able to become citizens, and go on welfare, and possibly even drive one day.  I believe they would be more appreciative and therefore, more deserving in my book than many who already have those rights! 




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I can't believe this blatant anti-primate hate speech!




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24HourNut wrote: I can't believe this blatant anti-primate hate speech!
I know......poor things!  They deserve better.  I think I had a wonderful idea!  Actually I'm watching to see when the rest of the members are going to have the nerve to jump in!  This could be a very good discussion!  ::sgrin::




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They are special in my mind though ... like a really dumb but basically functional cousin or something.




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I don't like the scientific experiments they've done with them.  They aren't human really, in my eyes...........but neither are my dogs.  I couldn't stand to see someone doing hurtful things to them!  Apes do have very structured lifestyles and I believe they have a very emotional and sensitive brain.  I don't know about going as far as "human" rights, but they should defiantly be treated with respect to their intelligence!   




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24HourNut wrote: They are special in my mind though ... like a really dumb but basically functional cousin or something.

not exactly... :giantgrin:

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Amy wrote: 24HourNut wrote: They are special in my mind though ... like a really dumb but basically functional cousin or something.

not exactly... :giantgrin:

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Cool!  Nah, we're not related.  I need to see them directing movies before I am swayed.




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Amy wrote: 24HourNut wrote: They are special in my mind though ... like a really dumb but basically functional cousin or something.

not exactly... :giantgrin:

smart chimp battles college students

I'd like to watch one in real life.  That's amazing.  I'll bet Franks still back there watching what came on "after" the chimp!  :lmao:




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They should be trained to perform menial tasks such as house cleaning,car washing and genetic research before they can vote.

 
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librtyhead wrote: They should be trained to perform menial tasks such as house cleaning,car washing and genetic research before they can vote.


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Our DNA is basically 98% chimpanzee.

The only way we differ is a rejection of our ego which became god and the need to dress and the need to dress well !

   
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Humans are ape genes gone bad. Nature will eventually correct this mistake.

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I don't think any animal that poops in it's own hand and flings the poop at people should have human rights!  Think what you will of me, but that is my position.

What is the difference between a monkey and an ape?

Monkey - tail

Ape - no tail

I would consider giving monkeys human rights, but only if they are dressed up in little suits.

I am pro-monkey and anti-ape, for that reason I could never run for political office or teach in a government funded school.

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