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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > 24's Religion & Philosophy > The Official Evolution vs Creation thread for 24 and PMH. |
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cynicalninja wrote: pmh1nic wrote:Unfortunately the mountain is made of jello and does not hold up under the heat of hard science. I've seen that cartoon before. I like it. "Don't think, just have faith and believe" is one of the reasons religion and science don't mix.
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24HourNut wrote: cynicalninja wrote:pmh1nic wrote:Unfortunately the mountain is made of jello and does not hold up under the heat of hard science. Religions is one thing and Superstitution is entirely another thing. Abdu'l Baha delivered this in a talk at the Theosophical Society in Paris in 1911: " The Unity of Religion and Science 18 We may think of science as one wing and religion as the other; a bird needs two wings for flight, one alone would be useless. Any religion that contradicts science or that is opposed to it, is only ignorance--for ignorance is the opposite of knowledge. 19 Religion which consists only of rites and ceremonies of prejudice is not the truth. Let us earnestly endeavour to be the means of uniting religion and science. 20 `Alí, the son-in-law of Muhammad, said: `That which is in conformity with science is also in conformity with religion'. Whatever the intelligence of man cannot understand, religion ought not to accept. Religion and science walk hand in hand, and any religion contrary to science is not the truth." Regards, Scott
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Yes, if you water down the scriptures and what most religious people believe, then you can work on meshing science and religion ... but otherwise, generally speaking, you aren't going to get most very religious people or scriptures to go along with humans are another primate that evolved from primates. For example, all the people that think Noah had two of every species (even from the other continents) on the Ark, or that some people had lived until they were many hundreds of years old, or that a snake talked, or that humans got here magically via Adam & Eve's incestuous family ... are not going to jive with science well. That is why you have religion and religious folk rejecting man's evolution from primates. It's not because of honest scientific dispute, it's because they want to throw out the scientific community and evidence in general to favor their religious beliefs and scriptures.
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24HourNut wrote: Yes, if you water down the scriptures and what most religious people believe, then you can work on meshing science and religion ... but otherwise, generally speaking, you aren't going to get most very religious people or scriptures to go along with humans are another primate that evolved from primates. For example, all the people that think Noah had two of every species (even from the other continents) on the Ark, or that some people had lived until they were many hundreds of years old, or that a snake talked, or that humans got here magically via Adam & Eve's incestuous family ... are not going to jive with science well. That is why you have religion and religious folk rejecting man's evolution from primates. It's not because of honest scientific dispute, it's because they want to throw out the scientific community and evidence in general to favor their religious beliefs and scriptures. In other words they are superstitious not really religious at all. Regards, Scott
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Popeyesays wrote: 24HourNut wrote:Yes, if you water down the scriptures and what most religious people believe, then you can work on meshing science and religion ... but otherwise, generally speaking, you aren't going to get most very religious people or scriptures to go along with humans are another primate that evolved from primates. For example, all the people that think Noah had two of every species (even from the other continents) on the Ark, or that some people had lived until they were many hundreds of years old, or that a snake talked, or that humans got here magically via Adam & Eve's incestuous family ... are not going to jive with science well. That is why you have religion and religious folk rejecting man's evolution from primates. It's not because of honest scientific dispute, it's because they want to throw out the scientific community and evidence in general to favor their religious beliefs and scriptures. I would consider JBF and Pmh, for example, very religious. On your real point, though: the Bible, for example, indicates that certain people lived many hundreds of years each. I don't believe that jives with science, or the world-wide scientific community. At the very least, it shows a wall between them.
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24HourNut wrote: Popeyesays wrote:24HourNut wrote:Yes, if you water down the scriptures and what most religious people believe, then you can work on meshing science and religion ... but otherwise, generally speaking, you aren't going to get most very religious people or scriptures to go along with humans are another primate that evolved from primates. For example, all the people that think Noah had two of every species (even from the other continents) on the Ark, or that some people had lived until they were many hundreds of years old, or that a snake talked, or that humans got here magically via Adam & Eve's incestuous family ... are not going to jive with science well. That is why you have religion and religious folk rejecting man's evolution from primates. It's not because of honest scientific dispute, it's because they want to throw out the scientific community and evidence in general to favor their religious beliefs and scriptures. I have two eyes to study what is and is not. Why blind myself in one eye and claim my eyesight has improved? Regards, Scott
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Heh, wha? I don't quite understand what you said, Scott ... especially how it makes the "hundreds of years each" thing jive with science.
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24HourNut wrote: Heh, wha? I don't quite understand what you said, Scott ... especially how it makes the "hundreds of years each" thing jive with science. The hundreds of years thing is an oral tradition gone made. It does not jive with science and no one should try to make it do so. To demand it be believed in face of contrary proof from natural science is to be superstitious, not religious. Regards, Scott
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Popeyesays wrote: 24HourNut wrote:Heh, wha? I don't quite understand what you said, Scott ... especially how it makes the "hundreds of years each" thing jive with science. Gotchya, and thanks - that's how I feel as well. They are superstitious, then.
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Popeyesays says: "I have two eyes to study what is and is not. Why blind myself in one eye and claim my eyesight has improved?" Regards, Scott Re-Interpretation: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.” 2 Timothy 4:1-4
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24HourNut wrote: Popeyesays wrote:24HourNut wrote:Heh, wha? I don't quite understand what you said, Scott ... especially how it makes the "hundreds of years each" thing jive with science. Now read the creation story as an allegory or fable and you will find lots of truth there. It's not meant to be a scientific text. Regards, Scott
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Isn't it obvious that people screw like animals? How women get pregnant, how men shotgun and rape? Primates rape to help spread their seed - seems like a throw back to our cousins, no? How we are not a monogamous species, always attracted to other people and such, like animals? Even sex with your loved one is an animal thing, and with loved one or not, all revolved around making a lot of procreation happen. These are things that primates do. Don't you guys see the connection? I know we have more rules and such but if you study the details and subtleties in primate sex, we seem to be just like that.
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24HourNut wrote: Isn't it obvious that people screw like animals? How women get pregnant, how men shotgun and rape? Primates rape to help spread their seed - seems like a throw back to our cousins, no? No, not really rape in human terms does not happen in primate species which have females who have to be hormononally receptive. Rape in humans is far more a thing about dominance than anything to do with sex. Regards, Scott
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I believe we rape for the same basic fundamental reasons that primates do. Or, let me put it to you this way - it can be traced back to primate rape. Animalistic control, violence, and screwing.
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24HourNut wrote: I believe we rape for the same basic fundamental reasons that primates do. Or, let me put it to you this way - it can be traced back to primate rape. Animalistic control, violence, and screwing. The basic essential is this: Animals do not worry about the ethical quality of rape. Humans do. Regards, Scott
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