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I feel like this guy does pretty much!:

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God is not the reason for evil in the world, the devil is.

So really this man is blaming God for the actions of Lucifer. The devil comes as an angel of light, he wears a mask to place blame on others and to hide himself. We see this all the time today, an example would be President Bush, he claims to be Christian, but his actions are not what the Bible says to do...he wearing a mask to fool people and to place blame of his actions on others.

This man also doesn't understand, the differences between the monotheistic religions, Islam really isn't one of those, ie "Satanic Verses" There is also the issue of the new and old testament, these are different covenants, one was just for the Jews, the other is for the Jews first and then everyone else; bring hope to the world.

He is also very confused on the issues, grouping them all together in confusion, like Great flood, God flooded the world because of the fallen Angel had infected the world; they mixed blood with man and were killing man with glee. So the earth was cleansed of the fallen's actions.

He also seems to forget that pagan religions come from the fallen and many are very evil their actions, like throwing their children into the fire and all other sorts of wickedness.

The mask trick still works today, the men who create war on the earth are of a fallen Angel religion, i.e. things like Masonics under illuminism, but they hid their identity, they lie about who they are and again place blame on God for their actions....  Wolves in sheep’s clothing.


Like these guys who attend devil rites but claim to be Christian for public view. You know our President, and his Rockefeller pals ;)






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I think he just sees these man-made archaic religions for what they are as he points out some of the main absurdities.




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24HourNut wrote: I think he just sees these man-made archaic religions for what they are as he points out some of the main absurdities.


I think he hates God, there are only three monothesitic religions and one is phony....and the Religion of Jesus Christ is the completion of the Jewish religion.

Out of these can come denominations which would be a refection of mans influance, ie Sects that have been bent by man.

And claim of man made, well isn't his religion man made as well? He made it. In his efforts to dismiss God, he is then calling himself God.

Didn't Satan do that?

Not all "Religions" are right, if they were then they are all wrong. The truth has to be one thing, not everything is truth.

 




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It is unbelievable that God was such a maniac in the OT, verses, let's say, the more obvious thing, which is that it wasn't actually God's word and was instead a man-made religion embracing archaic concepts at the time. God edits and creates the story since he knows the future and chooses a naive Eve.  Drowning babies in a flood because he was taken back by how people turned out?  Make people born with sin?  God edits by how and when he intervenes, too.  Also, God needs love so he creates us monkeys when he already knows the future, i.e. prophecies?  Leaving a rulebook for all based upon archaic text and test games that we can't even trust were not manipulated by men over the centuries?  It's all crazy.  I don't see how what he says in the video is so off.  It seems that it is normal for a modern, clear-thinking person to not buy all of it when it all sounds so blatantly superstitious and archaic.  At least update the rulebook or something.  Even the New Testament condones slavery. I'm not buying its from God just because it is a popular following, cult, religion, club, or whatever you want to call it.




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I love the title of this thread. Shock value, for JBF. I'm like a kid looking for negative attention from Daddy. JBF? I've been bad.




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Robodoon wrote:
Not all "Religions" are right, if they were then they are all wrong.  


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That's right, and only ONE checks out. The others have more holes than swiss cheese.




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24HourNut wrote: It is unbelievable that God was such a maniac in the OT, verses, let's say, the more obvious thing, which is that it wasn't actually God's word and was instead a man-made religion embracing archaic concepts at the time. God edits and creates the story since he knows the future and chooses a naive Eve.  Drowning babies in a flood because he was taken back by how people turned out?  Make people born with sin?  God edits by how and when he intervenes, too.  Also, God needs love so he creates us monkeys when he already knows the future, i.e. prophecies?  Leaving a rulebook for all based upon archaic text and test games that we can't even trust were not manipulated by men over the centuries?  It's all crazy.  I don't see how what he says in the video is so off.  It seems that it is normal for a modern, clear-thinking person to not buy all of it when it all sounds so blatantly superstitious and archaic.  At least update the rulebook or something.  Even the New Testament condones slavery. I'm not buying its from God just because it is a popular following, cult, religion, club, or whatever you want to call it.

It was a time of hard hearts and fallen angels and ther children the Giants. The fallen created Abominations to God's design. He told them not to do what they did, but they did it and tainted the Creation. God gives warnings, and these warnings were ignored in rebellion against God. So they got what they deserved, and were warned not to do it. Instead of the truth they follow a lie and were punished for it. God didn't make people born with sin, Man did with his "Free will", just as Lucifer used his free will to rebel against God.

We live in Time and Space, not forever. In this place matter moves, and in these movements it takes time. God gave us the gift of Angels; Free will...if he didn't you would be saying you were a slave to Him, you have the free will to follow truth or not...and if you don't...well, tolls get paid. But this is the reason for Jesus Christ, unlike the fallen we get a second chance...the angels are not afforded this, the fallen will burn in the pit forever and ever. God sent his Son to pay the toll for our sin, he came to earth to make right what was wrong. No human could ever do this, because even one sin gives us blemish and removes us from God. We can not stand in perfection and truth when we are dirty, even our shame will kill us. God is in Heaven, in truth...we can't live there being dirty.

No the New Test doesn't condone slavery, but men make slaves out of themselves, and normally what was being talked about in the Jewish idea of slavery was "debt slaves" Slavery still exist today, most of us today are "debt slaves" nothing has changed.

Jesus came to free man, not enslave him...but to free him from the bonds and debt of Sin that removes us from God.

 




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Robodoon wrote:
Not all "Religions" are right, if they were then they are all wrong.  


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That's right, and only ONE checks out. The others have more holes than swiss cheese.

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Dear friend,

You aver: [Jesus came to free man, not enslave him...]

That's why I'm Baha'i.

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Hi Free.man, good to see you. It would have been nice if Jesus told people to stop owning and beating their slaves instead of issuing guidelines on how to punish them, and condoning it in general (make sure they have off on Sabbath and don't covet your neighbor's) don't you think? Just sayin. :)




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Robodoon wrote: It was a time of hard hearts and fallen angels and ther children the Giants. The fallen created Abominations to God's design. He told them not to do what they did, but they did it and tainted the Creation. God gives warnings, and these warnings were ignored in rebellion against God. So they got what they deserved, and were warned not to do it. Instead of the truth they follow a lie and were punished for it. God didn't make people born with sin, Man did with his "Free will", just as Lucifer used his free will to rebel against God.



That doesn't make the story of God drowning babies any more believable, and it certainly doesn't remove how God edited/created that Eve situation knowing what would happen.  If God knew the future and even issued prophecies through the Bible, he know naive Eve would be eating that apple.  He knew we would be born with sin.  It doesn't make sense but what makes sense is that it was made up by archaic men, which is why the whole of it all sounds so ancient and superstitious. 




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Free.man wrote: Dear friend,

You aver: [Jesus came to free man, not enslave him...]

That's why I'm Baha'i.

Free :heartbeat: man

 



But Baha'i seeks Satan's kingdom on Earth....but so does the Catholic church...but then again the devil got them a while ago.

The "Religion" of "Jesus Christ", is not a "Religion", but the "Truth."

 

Using US founders words in this.



 

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