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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Is Baha'i another gospel or not?

That depends on your precise meaning. Is it the same Gospel in the sense that Baha'u'llah intended to lead a Christian revival INSTEAD OF founding a new and oindependant religious system? No.

But this is what Baha'u'llah says:
This is that which hath descended from the realm of glory, uttered by the tongue of power and might, and revealed unto the Prophets of old.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

 

Baha'u'llah's teachings come from the same Source as Jesus' teachings - God. Jesus is aware of this, and fully approves of everything Baha'u'llah had to say. Therefore, it is the same Gospel.

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24HourNut wrote: Have all the breweries and restaurants been alerted that God, in some sort of weird micro-management effort, has banned alcohol?
How is a warning label "Don't drink this. It interferes with your ability to think clearly." micro-managing?
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Well, unfortunately... the god you desire is available to believe in.Dear friend,

Unfortunately? Unfortunately? For whom?

(hint) The man is not buying your particular product, JBF!

He is not buying the Baha'i thang either, however, I'm not inclined to reserve a place in hell next to me for doing so, if ya know what I mene(Dan. 5:25, 26) (Frank cringes from the thought of guilt-by-assonance) :bigwink:

WheredagoFrank? ::smoocch::

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really berin?

Jesus fully approves of everything Baha'u'llah had to say?

Really? Nothing contrary so the Apostle Paul would fully affirm Baha'u'llah and everything he said? All the bible Prophets and Apostles would agree too? Therefore, so would all 40 biblical writers have to be in unity and affirm and agree with what Baha'u'llah had to say?




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

Matthew 24:4
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: If the Baha'i prophet was Jesus come again... then why are all the believers still here and not taken to be with Him?


Stop and think a moment. You answered your own question.

If Baha'u'llah IS Who He claims to be, and you reject Him - then you are no longer a believer. :bigwink:
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Yes, I am aware he likes neither Free.man

yes, fully aware...




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

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So why are you still here berin? Why didn't you go with Baha'u'llah to be with him forever in the place he prepared for you in heaven?




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Jesus said,

"And if I go and prepare a place for you I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also."

John 14:3




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

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berinwitness wrote: 24HourNut wrote: Have all the breweries and restaurants been alerted that God, in some sort of weird micro-management effort, has banned alcohol?
How is a warning label "Don't drink this. It interferes with your ability to think clearly." micro-managing?
How much more micro can it get?  Rules about flossing your teeth?




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: really berin?

Jesus fully approves of everything Baha'u'llah had to say?

Really? Nothing contrary so the Apostle Paul would fully affirm Baha'u'llah and everything he said? All the bible Prophets and Apostles would agree too? Therefore, so would all 40 biblical writers have to be in unity and affirm and agree with what Baha'u'llah had to say?

In a word, yes.

Say: This is an Announcement whereat the hearts of the Prophets and Messengers have rejoiced. This is the One Whom the heart of the world remembereth and is promised in the Books of God, the Mighty, the All-Wise. The hands of the Messengers were, in their desire to meet Me, upraised towards God, the Mighty, the Glorified.... Some lamented in their separation from Me, others endured hardships in My path, and still others laid down their lives for the sake of My Beauty, could ye but know it.

(Baha'u'llah, The Proclamation of Baha'u'llah, p. 29)

"By the one true God, Elijah hath hastened unto My court and hath circumambulated in the day-time and in the night-season My throne of glory." "Solomon in all his majesty circles in adoration around Me in this day, uttering this most exalted word: 'I have turned my face towards Thy face, O Thou omnipotent Ruler of the world! I am wholly detached from all things pertaining unto me, and yearn for that which Thou dost possess.'" "Had Muhammad, the Apostle of God, attained this Day," Bahá'u'lláh writes in a Tablet revealed on the eve of His banishment to the penal colony of 'Akká, "He would have exclaimed: 'I have truly recognized Thee, O Thou the Desire of the Divine Messengers!' Had Abraham attained it, He too, falling prostrate upon the ground, and in the utmost lowliness before the Lord thy God, would have cried: 'Mine heart is filled with peace, O Thou Lord of all that is in heaven and on earth! I testify that Thou hast unveiled before mine eyes all the glory of Thy power and the full majesty of Thy law!'... Had Moses Himself attained it, He, likewise, would have raised His voice  saying: 'All praise be to Thee for having lifted upon me the light of Thy countenance and enrolled me among them that have been privileged to behold Thy face!'"

(Baha'u'llah, quoted by Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Baha'u'llah, p. 105)

And further We have said: "He Who is the Father is come, and the Son (Jesus Christ), in the holy vale, crieth out: 'Here am I, here am I, O Lord, my God!', whilst Sinai circleth round the House, and the Burning Bush calleth aloud: 'The All-Bounteous is come mounted upon the clouds! Blessed is he that draweth nigh unto Him, and woe betide them that are far away.'

(Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 57)
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Furthermore  :giantgrin:... if God needs to tell me about a beer I have at a bbq, he should be sending me volumes of material on the vast array of far more important things rules could be used for. For example, instead of rules about my beer at the bbq, we could use some instructions on things like how to be a kung fu master in 60 days, or maybe how to invest money for retirement.




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: So why are you still here berin? Why didn't you go with Baha'u'llah to be with him forever in the place he prepared for you in heaven?Jesus said,

"And if I go and prepare a place for you I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also."

John 14:3
I'm still physically on the Earth because you have misunderstood what Jesus was trying to tell you.
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24HourNut wrote: Furthermore  :giantgrin:... if God needs to tell me about a beer I have at a bbq, he should be sending me volumes of material on the vast array of far more important things rules could be used for.

He did. :giantgrin:

You might remember a while back I was trying to get you to read Baha'i Scripture.
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But of course...I should have known what He REALLY meant.




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: really berin?

Jesus fully approves of everything Baha'u'llah had to say?

Really? Nothing contrary so the Apostle Paul would fully affirm Baha'u'llah and everything he said? All the bible Prophets and Apostles would agree too? Therefore, so would all 40 biblical writers have to be in unity and affirm and agree with what Baha'u'llah had to say?
Actually they have likely already done so!

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