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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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"These Manifestations of God have each a twofold station. One is the station of pure abstraction and essential unity. In this respect, if thou callest them all by one name, and dost ascribe to them the same attributes, thou hast not erred from the truth. Even as He hath revealed: "No distinction do We make between any of His Messengers." For they, one and all, summon the people of the earth to acknowledge the unity of God, and herald unto them the Kawthar of an infinite grace and bounty. They are all invested with the robe of prophethood, and are honored with the mantle of glory. Thus hath Muhammad, the Point of the Qur'án, revealed: "I am all the Prophets." Likewise, He saith: "I am the first Adam, Noah, Moses, and Jesus." " Baha'u'llah from Gleanings and The Book of Certitude He continues saying: "The other station is the station of distinction, and pertaineth to the world of creation, and to the limitations thereof. In this respect, each Manifestation of God hath a distinct individuality, a definitely prescribed mission, a predestined revelation, and specially designated limitations. Each one of them is known by a different name, is characterized by a special attribute, fulfils a definite mission, and is entrusted with a particular Revelation. Even as He saith: "Some of the Apostles We have caused to excel the others. To some God hath spoken, some He hath raised and exalted. And to Jesus, Son of Mary, We gave manifest signs, and We strengthened Him with the Holy Spirit.""    Paradox IS your friend. Regards, Scott
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Likewise, He saith: "I am the first Adam, Noah, Moses, and Jesus." " Baha'u'llah from Gleanings and The Book of CertitudeIs this saying that the Baha'u'llah is all these persons rolled up into one?
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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muddawber wrote:
Actuallym Baha`u'llah is quoting Muhammed in an obscure hadith, so Muhammed is making the claim, But, yes; in one sense you can refer to Them all by one name and be perfectly correct. At the same time you can distinguish Them one from another and still be correct. Their unity is of Essence not physical at all. Regards, Scott
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Actuallym Baha`u'llah is quoting Muhammed in an obscure hadith, so Muhammed is making the claim, 
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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I'm sure you would have laughed at Jesus when He said: "I am the way, the truth and the life." If you had lived in that particular time and place. All secure in the knowledge that His claim to be the Messiah was bunk--because your family and priest said so. Last edited on 09:46 pm by Popeyesays |
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Popeyesays wrote:
Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know though will we?
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muddawber wrote: Popeyesays wrote: It would require sober reflection and be an expression of humble decision for anyone, I am sure. Regards, Scott
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Popeyesays wrote: muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote: And I guess, your piousness, you can supply both. Last edited on 11:23 pm by muddawber |
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muddawber wrote: Popeyesays wrote:muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote: Don't llok at me to tell you how you should decide the issue that's why I said: "It would require sober reflection and be an expression of humble decision for anyone, I am sure. Regards, Scott
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Popeyesays wrote: muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote:muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote: Well, I'm not at all inclined to do either. As I said in another post, I followed several different religions over the years, trying to do exactly what your so called "faith" has done, and that is take several religious beliefs and mix them together to make something I liked, and they don't mix. They aren't compatible, unless you fool yourself into believing they are, and as I said in same post, I realized I was comitting spiritual adultery against the God of the bible by doing so.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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Popeyesays wrote: muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote:muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote: Popeye, could you not say that about reading the Bible, and learning about Jesus? It's been my experience, most people who are only interested in the Bible, are people who have in fact studied other religions in depth. JBF, is one of them. I think they already have expressed humble, sober reflection...........
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Popeye, could you not say that about reading the Bible, and learning about Jesus? It's been my experience, most people who are only interested in the Bible, are people who have in fact studied other religions in depth. JBF, is one of them. I think they already have expressed humble, sober reflection........... Thank you, Fox. I'm glad to see someone has some discernment in here.
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foxglovepress wrote: Popeyesays wrote:muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote:muddawber wrote:Popeyesays wrote: I am sure they feel so, I sure won't judge it. It's not my place. I do know that there is much misuderstood about Islam and Baha`i, because I see people write the most outlandish misconceptions as Gospel truth. Reading the Bible certainly always leads me to new discoveries everytime I undertake it. The richness of the text is there because no single interpretation is sufficient, but rather leads to other avenues of thought. The way to embrace the message is to see where two traditions agree, not to create dichotomies where no disagreement really exists. The next couple of weeks lead up to the most somber Baha`i Holy Day of the calendar--The Martyrdom of the Bab. If anyone truly examines the facts of those days, one cannot escape the udnerstanding of a comoon thread between all religions--particularly Christianity. The accounts have so many things in common, and are so reminiscent of one another that it is a thing of amazement. It deserves a thread of its own. Regards, Scott
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Popeyesays wrote: foxglovepress wrote:Popeyesays wrote:Popeye, could you not say that about reading the Bible, and learning about Jesus? It's been my experience, mosEven about Christianityt people who are only interested in the Bible, are people who have in fact studied other religions in depth. JBF, is one of them. I think they already have expressed humble, sober reflection........... I understand exactly what you're saying, and that it's how you feel. It's what your interpretation of the Bible has told you. I for one respect that. I believe everyone has the right to choose the truth about God in their own way. Because we are all of complex minds, backgrounds and life styles I don't think there will ever be a time when all people agree on one God, one Jesus, and one truth. It's my belief however, at some point, we will all know...........
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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I am sure they feel so, I sure won't judge it. It's not my place. You are right about one thing for a change, it is not your place to judge, but, you have judged all of us who only believe that Jesus Christ is the only son of God, and that the Baha'u'llah is not a manifestation of God. Your smug attitude about us tells the story.
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