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Lon Guardian1000© Member  Septuagenarian
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Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think?
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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Lon wrote: Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? Jihad doesn't mean what you think it means. It also does not mean what those extremists think it means. Muhammed says clearly: "Let there be no compulsion in religion." Those who CLAIM to follow Muhammed and WOULD compell others in religion are not Muslims at all. Regards, Scott
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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Lon wrote: Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? I think you are confusing Islam with Islamic fundamentalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_fundamentalism
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Searching The Hearts Of Man
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Lon wrote: Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? I think history shows you to be correct on this one Lon and the previous posts again are typical of sensitivity based and not reality. Islam is a religion of the sword to control and conquer...always was and always will be. Essentially rooted in 7th century Saudi Arabia life and custom.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member  Official Forum Troublemaker
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Lon wrote:Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? JBF, you may be right regarding the past track record. BUT -- would you want Christianity to be perceived based only on it's past track record of the sacking of Christian Constantinople by Christian Crusaders, or the Inqusition, or the Irish Christian conflict? I am perfectly aware of the vast differences between what Christ meant for Christianity to be and what the people of Christianity are, and I fully appreciate Christ for Who He was, without allowing the sins of Christians over the centuries to besmirch the reputation of Christ and His Teachings. Your centering of this on "Saudia Arabia" speaks to your lack of knowledge of the factual history of Islam. Last edited on 01:40 pm by sirlamre |
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Lon wrote: Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? I think that any and all organized religions that have "kill the non-believer" embedded into their scriptures, regardless of which scriptures or how old, need to be eliminated on the grounds of being total BS.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Searching The Hearts Of Man
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sirlamre wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Lon wrote:Islam vs. everyone else. It's going to get worse before it gets better and all the talking, negotiating, peace overtures, bribes and incentives ain't gonna cut it. Islam has one foot in the 11th Century and the other in the 21st and until they get both feet in the 21st there will be strife. They got the cell phones, weapons, designer glasses, tv's, computers and all the moden technology with ideology that is both barbaric, chauvenistic and woefully unfair. Non Muslims will put up with it for a while, and then I think there will be the equivilent of a non-Muslim Jihad. What do you think? Are you now seeing Islam condemning violence and globally promoting "love, joy and peace"? 
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Unfortunately while the majority of Muslims may be peace loving the 10 percent that are radicals are causing a tremendous amount of chaos in the world. They are the onces that might very while cause the Middle East to explode in the next view years.
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Lon Guardian1000© Member Septuagenarian
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pmh1nic wrote: Unfortunately while the majority of Muslims may be peace loving the 10 percent that are radicals are causing a tremendous amount of chaos in the world. They are the onces that might very while cause the Middle East to explode in the next view years. I am afraid that the reaction by non muslims will not be contained to just that 10%, for how is one to distinguish one from the other?
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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Mohammed was a John the Baptist fan who wanted to go big. He got booted out of his hometown for being too obnoxious, too power-mad, and generally being an asshole. So he went out in the surrounding desert, hooked up with some highwaymen preying on caravans and when he had enough loot, he sacked his old hometown, killed his neighbors, and set himself up as a petty god. The rest is just P.R. Pfft. So much for Islam.
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Lon wrote: pmh1nic wrote:Unfortunately while the majority of Muslims may be peace loving the 10 percent that are radicals are causing a tremendous amount of chaos in the world. They are the onces that might very while cause the Middle East to explode in the next view years. Dear friend, Well, if all else fails, you can always study the subject enough so you actually know something about what you are talking about rather then just repeating what others tell you about it. Free.man
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Smiling Shinobi
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A lot of people have very strong opinions on Islam yet know absolutely nothing about it accept for what they are told by bigots and people with religious intolerance.
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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Lon wrote: pmh1nic wrote:Unfortunately while the majority of Muslims may be peace loving the 10 percent that are radicals are causing a tremendous amount of chaos in the world. They are the onces that might very while cause the Middle East to explode in the next view years. By treating them as human beings with justice and a desire to sort the chaffe from the wheat. Like Good Christians, Muslims, Jews, Baha`i's, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Parsees, Jains, Ahmadiyyih, Ethical agnostics and atheists. Regards, Scott
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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Saint wrote: Mohammed was a John the Baptist fan who wanted to go big. He got booted out of his hometown for being too obnoxious, too power-mad, and generally being an asshole. So he went out in the surrounding desert, hooked up with some highwaymen preying on caravans and when he had enough loot, he sacked his old hometown, killed his neighbors, and set himself up as a petty god. Ignorant beyond measure! The Meccans were idol worshippers--Abraham before Christ or Muhammed smashed the idols of Ur and Muhammed disdained the idols of Mecca. He was driven out of Mecca by enemies and He went to the equally important oasis city of Arabia--Medina. There He was accepted by the people of Medina as a Prophet. Those who did not accept Him religiously entered into treaties with Muhammed and the city of Medina. It was the Meccans who attacked Medina because the people of Medina sheltered Muhammed. The war raged some years, until the Meccans wore themselves out and Muhammed marched into Mecca by peaceful settlement. The only jsut war in Islam is one in defense. For a fair hearing by a non-Musloim scholar, I recommend Muhammed and the Course of Islam, by H. M. Balyuzi ISBN-13: 978-0853984788. The book should be obtainable new or used from Amazon or E-Bay or Barnes and Noble, Borders, or even from interlibrary load--contact your local librarian. Regards, Scott
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Free.man Original500© Member
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Saint wrote: Mohammed was a John the Baptist fan who wanted to go big. He got booted out of his hometown for being too obnoxious, too power-mad, and generally being an asshole. So he went out in the surrounding desert, hooked up with some highwaymen preying on caravans and when he had enough loot, he sacked his old hometown, killed his neighbors, and set himself up as a petty god. Dear friend, Now, that's informative, though a curious lacunae. We can all take that to the bank. It's as valuable as my three-legged pig. Free.man
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