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muddawber Guardian1000© Member 
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foxglovepress wrote:Free.man, this tells me that what Mud and JBF are saying is true. I think the Catholics have their hands full! You're going to give them a run for their money......... I don't think the Catholics have ever figured into the equation. For all their ills, they have only been someone to vent frustrations and misunderstandings on.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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muddawber wrote: foxglovepress wrote: I've always thought the Catholics wanted to be THE religion of the world. It's only been over the past few years that they've really dropped in stature. I don't want to get off topic here. This is about the Bahai's I know. I just remember when I was younger the Catholics VERY powerful.......... To me, it sounds like the Bahai's are headed in that same direction.
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Free.man Original500© Member
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muddawber wrote: Free.man Dear friend, Hehehehehe! Ya pay your quarters and take your chances! I know I got cha-cha-cha when your vanity shows from high brows to furbelow ;O) I don't believe you becoming a Baha'i is a down side! Now that's MON'DO! Free.man God knows I love mon'do and, and I'm a happy guy!
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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Free.man wrote:
Free.man, Let me say that the mission of oneness among the Bahai faith and the joining together all the worlds religions to a Bahai must seem noble and of good cause. Yet, biblically... this is a worldly viewpoint and the world hears you and finds this also admirable. Jesus is not behing this cause. Mankind is put on the throne under this plan and mankind is trusted to mend all the worlds problems intead of Christ who is the Head of all principalities and powers. The problem with the Bahai agenda and the U.N. is that together it fits exactly into the biblical end time scenerio and framework of creating a "One World Religion". So, the Bahai faith is actually promoting and sponsoring unwittingly the plan of the enemy of God...
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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good post ;)
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Free.man Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Free.man wrote: Dear friend, The enemy of God is our own vain imaginations. As for your interpretation of whats Biblical; I picked up a Book for you and me the other day. It's title is, "Grasping God's Word" and it is co-written by two Christians. A good read. I appreciate your interpretations of the Bible; really I do. I always win because of it. Free.man
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Free.man wrote:Baha'u'llah states and Baha'is believe there *IS* only one religion; eternal in the past and eternal in the future. Baha'u'llah predicts that some time in the future there will be a coming together of religions(whether any of us like it or not). This will be a unit in diversity. Everyone will maintain their individual identities. This is partially true. While their is only one true religion, their is also a false one. Baha'u'llah is right, some time in the future, there will be a coming together of religions, worshipping the anti-christ if you will. It has already started with the Baha'i, and their absorbing of the major religious writings of the world and trying to make it all compatible. As for a unit in diversity, that is a contradiction in terms. You cannot be diverse, and be one. As for individuals maintaining their identities, that is a complete falsehood. Under this new order, everyone will have to think and act alike, otherwise, there will still be those divisions that keep people seperated now.
You are right about a painful process. This is not something that will happen peacefully. It will only take place after a devastating occurence, such as a World War. Then, and only then, will anything such as this be able to be put into place. Even at that, there are going to be a lot of people who will accept it. What will happen to them. The same as was stated about any government that would try something against the order. They would have to be disposed of. Maybe the Baha'i is an NGO, but that doesn't stop them from trying their best to influence the UN to accomplish their goal. Again, a good smoke screen to try and cover your agenda. This one world government will in no way be like the US Federal Government. There won't be any bill of rights, or constitution. The lower governments will only be puppets to do the biding of the world government, owned and controlled by them. As for military, the individual countries will be police states controled by the world police. Wake up and smell the coffee, man. Are you so blinded by ignorance that you can't see this, or are you hoping to be in a place of authority?
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Free.man wrote: The enemy of God is our own vain imaginations. No, the enemy of God are those that oppose Him, and do not believe in Him, or His Son. Just how do you figure you always win? It is only in your own mind that you win. You will, if you stay the course you are on, be the ultimate loser.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Free.man wrote: Hehehehehe! You can laugh all you want, but your laughter will not be lasting. As for becoming a Baha'i, I will be one of those who will die rather than become a part of your one world order.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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muddawber wrote: foxglovepress wrote: You really don't know much about history do you? Try reading about someone called the Pope, and how INCREDIBLE the chokehold that the Catholic Church had for CENTURIES on all of the Western countries and no few of the Eastern ones. Try "The Pope could effectively decide who was going to be King" It wasn't until England created the Anglican Church that the chains of "religious truth" that the Catholic Church had wrapped around the world began to break. From I'd say about 300-400AD until about 1500, the Pope was GOD on earth to EVERY single Christian alive...
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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sirlamre wrote: muddawber wrote:foxglovepress wrote: Yes the papacy was the cornerstone of all Christian belief in the world for many centuries. It was not until Henry VIII and Martin Luther came into prominence that the stranglehold was loosened.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Amy wrote:"Let there be no misgivings as to the animating purpose of the world-wide Law of Bahá'u'lláh. Far from aiming at the subversion of the existing foundations of society, it seeks to broaden its basis, to remould its institutions in a manner consonant with the needs of an ever-changing world. It can conflict with no legitimate allegiances, nor can it undermine essential loyalties. Its purpose is neither to stifle the flame of a sane and intelligent patriotism in men's hearts, nor to abolish the system of national autonomy so essential if the evils of excessive centralization are to be avoided. It does not ignore, nor does it attempt to suppress the diversity of ethnical origins, of climate, of history, of language and tradition, of thought and habit, that differentiate the peoples and nations of the world. It calls for a wider loyalty, for a larger aspiration than any that has animated the human race. It insists upon the subordination of national impulses and interests to the imperative claims of a unified world. It repudiates excessive centralization on one hand, and disclaims all attempts at uniformity on the other. Its watchword is unity in diversity such as 'Abdu'l-Bahá Himself has explained. This is plain BS. In order to accomplish the goals of the Baha'i fatih, this flame of a sane and intelligent patriotism in men's heart, will have to be extinguished. National autonomy will have to be destroyed. A one world order cannot survive, unless the subjects of that order, give their whole hearted loyalty to that order. It is stated in it's own words, "It insists upon the subordination of national impulses and interests to the imperative claims of a unified world". If a country subordinates itself to the imperative claims of a unified world, i.e., world government, they lose their autonomy. "It repudiates excessive centralization on one hand, and disclaims all attempts at uniformity on the other". The only way there can be a world order, is to have excessive centralization. As I stated earlier, unity in diversity, is a contradiction in terms. If you are diverse in thinking, there will not be unity. This entire statement contradicts itself.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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sirlamre wrote: muddawber wrote:foxglovepress wrote: Yes, I know the history of the Catholic Church well, and the history of Martin Luther, and King James, and a number of others.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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cynicalninja wrote: sirlamre wrote:muddawber wrote:foxglovepress wrote: I only brought the Catholics up as a comparison to the Bahia's. I also stated this thread is about Bahia's, and I don't want to get off topic here.
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muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote: Dear friend, I win because I believe in God I win because I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I win because I am Baha'i I win because I always learn something from any/all interaction. I win because I take it all to the bank. I teach others psychological profiling and rather then using made up role playing I have my students come to different forums as quests and profile real people. I get paid a ship load of $$$ for what I teach. The more bizarre the posts or the more people claim normality the better it is for my students to study them. The students project what their chosen subject person will say and then I post a response to that person to test my students profiling hunches. I win because I continue to do crisis intervention work and the more practice I get the more affective and effective I become. As a result I already know what your next 5 or so posts will be like because I previously embedded information (stimuli) in my posts that I knew you could not resist responding too. You loose because I already profiled you long ago. I win because I can whined you up and run you around all day long. No matter what your response is I just put it in a file and give it to a student to study. I win because I was raised spelii(spee-lee-eye), the trickster; by a t'wati with the notion of mon'do. I win because I'm a raconteur who gums his words with both sugar and honey. I win because I'm always entertained, I go to bed late and I get a rise very, very early on. I win because I never proffer more than I can afford to loose. I win because I can yank the chain that you hang yourself with and there is not a thing you can do about it. I win because I got to love you for being the way you are. If you were not yourself I'd have to find someone else to do my job for me in such meaningful way. I win because you spread the Baha'i Faith all over the place for me. I win because someone out there probably will read this whole post and take it all way too seriously. I win because I had you at "Dear friend,". I win because God knows I love mon'do and, and I'm a happy guy! Free  man
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