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Free.man, do you think you could stay on topic here? I win, followed by all the weird stuff you're saying, isn't making any sense to me.......anyway. I want to see more actual text, and Baha'i beliefs rather then this weird stuff.
Remember, Fox, he is spelii(spee-lee-eye), the trickster, and this is one of his tricks to draw attention away from the topic.
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Free.man wrote: 24HourNut wrote: Free.man wrote: As a result I already know what your next 5 or so posts will be like because I previously embedded information (stimuli) in my posts that I knew you could not resist responding too. You loose because I already profiled you long ago.
I win because I can whined you up and run you around all day long. No matter what your response is I just put it in a file and give it to a student to study.
So basically, you're a Super Internet Bahai? 
Dear friend,
The internet is a valuable tool for me personally and in my work. I don't have to spend thousands of dollars going to professional training workshops and so on because I recognized a long time ago that the real time, real life situations on the internet jammed full of usable information. Even if someone is lying through their fingers about everything they post they never realize that their posts yield reams of info for me. I do handwriting analysis and other assessment tools. Spelling, word placement, tempo, and other forensic usage is useful for assessment.
Even though I prefer to use Baha'i principles in a forum I am comfortable also with applying an alternate aggressiveness if need be to test and assess a subject I find interesting.
Free.man
I'll be sure to brush up on my posting nuances and encoded messaging, then. 
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Posted: 09:32 pm |
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Amy wrote: muddawber wrote: Amy wrote: Dear Friends,
If any of the rhetoric I see being hurled around here were true...I would not be Baha'i. But it's not true, so I am. 
It is heartwrenching to me to see those who claim to be followers of the Son, spewing so much hatred.
My heart is weeping. 
Then, Amy, you need to open your eyes to the writings that you live by, and search those words for the falsehoods they put out. Then, maybe you will turn from being a Baha'i.
well-meaning people have tried for 15 years to make me see the error of my ways.  All it's done is strengthen my Faith. I have studied more in the past 15 years than in my whole life prior to that. I haved searched with an open mind and heart to find the deception, and have yet to find a convincing argument.
Besides if loving your fellow man is wrong, if treating others with respect is wrong, then I prefer to be wrong. 
I'm not saying anything against loving you fellow man, or treating others with respect. Even the non religious, and atheist do that. I'm talking about the world agenda.
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Amy wrote: Dear Friends,
If any of the rhetoric I see being hurled around here were true...I would not be Baha'i. But it's not true, so I am.
It is heartwrenching to me to see those who claim to be followers of the Son, spewing so much hatred.
My heart is weeping.
Dear friend,
If I hadn't spent some 25 years doing crisis intervention I might be more impacted by such words but after all these years this is very mild stuff for me. I've been called just about everything. I've had some come at me with guns, knives, dogs, potted plants, schticks and stoners. The one I hear the most is they are going to sue me. Most believe that I will fold because they say a discouraging word so terrible I just shrivel up and go away.
What they find hard to believe is that the more they act out the longer I have to stay and the longer I stay the more money I make. It goes from regular pay to time and a half to double time and then to triple time. The fastest way for a person to calm themself down around me is when they regain control over themselves and limit my ability to profit from their suffering. You should see their eyes when I tell them this and they believe me. When they get it they whip themself into shape, post haste.
The other day I had a 16 yr old boy who was cutting on himself(called hesitation marks). Everyone was understandably upset over the going on that led up to this(which was a very small slight). He pulled himself together quickly when he learned that I was the only winner in the house because I take it to the bank.
Remember: Closer then the life's vein.
Khoda Hafez, Ma'shuq!
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Free.man wrote: Amy wrote: Dear Friends,
If any of the rhetoric I see being hurled around here were true...I would not be Baha'i. But it's not true, so I am.
It is heartwrenching to me to see those who claim to be followers of the Son, spewing so much hatred.
My heart is weeping.
Dear friend,
If I hadn't spent some 25 years doing crisis intervention I might be more impacted by such words but after all these years this is very mild stuff for me. I've been called just about everything. I've had some come at me with guns, knives, dogs, potted plants, schticks and stoners. The one I hear the most is they are going to sue me. Most believe that I will fold because they say a discouraging word so terrible I just shrivel up and go away.
What they find hard to believe is that the more they act out the longer I have to stay and the longer I stay the more money I make. It goes from regular pay to time and a half to double time and then to triple time. The fastest way for a person to calm themself down around me is when they regain control over themselves and limit my ability to profit from their suffering. You should see their eyes when I tell them this and they believe me. When they get it they whip themself into shape, post haste.
The other day I had a 16 yr old boy who was cutting on himself(called hesitation marks). Everyone was understandably upset over the going on that led up to this(which was a very small slight). He pulled himself together quickly when he learned that I was the only winner in the house because I take it to the bank.
Remember: Closer then the life's vein.
Khoda Hafez, Ma'shuq!
Free man
Again, this has nothing what so ever to do with the issue. I could care less how much money you make, and how intelligent you may think you are. Stick with the issue, and answer questions with a straight answer. Quit playing the same game Satan did in the garden of Eden.
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24HourNut wrote: Free.man wrote: 24HourNut wrote: Free.man wrote: As a result I already know what your next 5 or so posts will be like because I previously embedded information (stimuli) in my posts that I knew you could not resist responding too. You loose because I already profiled you long ago.
I win because I can whined you up and run you around all day long. No matter what your response is I just put it in a file and give it to a student to study.
So basically, you're a Super Internet Bahai?
Dear friend,
The internet is a valuable tool for me personally and in my work. I don't have to spend thousands of dollars going to professional training workshops and so on because I recognized a long time ago that the real time, real life situations on the internet jammed full of usable information. Even if someone is lying through their fingers about everything they post they never realize that their posts yield reams of info for me. I do handwriting analysis and other assessment tools. Spelling, word placement, tempo, and other forensic usage is useful for assessment.
Even though I prefer to use Baha'i principles in a forum I am comfortable also with applying an alternate aggressiveness if need be to test and assess a subject I find interesting.
Free.man
I'll be sure to brush up on my posting nuances and encoded messaging, then.
Dear friend,
You do that! However, I already know you. Any change now would just be high lighted. 
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Posted: 09:52 pm |
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Let's get back on track here, and stop chasing rabbits. There are questions that have not been answered.
How does the world demilitarization take place, with out a world war?
How does the New/One World Order come about, without the wholesale slaughter of millions of people?
How does a country retain it's autonomy, and still be in this order?
How do people retain their patriotism to their country?
How are they going to keep track of people?
If they have demilitarization, how will this new government control the masses?
What will this order do to those like me who refuse to fall in line?
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muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote: Amy wrote: Dear Friends,
If any of the rhetoric I see being hurled around here were true...I would not be Baha'i. But it's not true, so I am.
It is heartwrenching to me to see those who claim to be followers of the Son, spewing so much hatred.
My heart is weeping.
Dear friend,
If I hadn't spent some 25 years doing crisis intervention I might be more impacted by such words but after all these years this is very mild stuff for me. I've been called just about everything. I've had some come at me with guns, knives, dogs, potted plants, schticks and stoners. The one I hear the most is they are going to sue me. Most believe that I will fold because they say a discouraging word so terrible I just shrivel up and go away.
What they find hard to believe is that the more they act out the longer I have to stay and the longer I stay the more money I make. It goes from regular pay to time and a half to double time and then to triple time. The fastest way for a person to calm themself down around me is when they regain control over themselves and limit my ability to profit from their suffering. You should see their eyes when I tell them this and they believe me. When they get it they whip themself into shape, post haste.
The other day I had a 16 yr old boy who was cutting on himself(called hesitation marks). Everyone was understandably upset over the going on that led up to this(which was a very small slight). He pulled himself together quickly when he learned that I was the only winner in the house because I take it to the bank.
Remember: Closer then the life's vein.
Khoda Hafez, Ma'shuq!
Free man
Again, this has nothing what so ever to do with the issue. I could care less how much money you make, and how intelligent you may think you are. Stick with the issue, and answer questions with a straight answer. Quit playing the same game Satan did in the garden of Eden.
Dear friend,
Hehehehe! Tele-me-true: the devil made ya do it?
Now that's a byte off the ol' apple sales pitch if I've ever heard one!
What comes after an eve of sulking? Maybe, trying to keep all your parts covered?
Parts is parts; no?
At least I wasn't caught running off the Res before my pants were down and, and out. What? Just the naked truth; just the naked truth!
I got to love this guy! He gives me more saddle then a snake-facinated bully in a china chop shop.
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Yes, let's stick to the topic please.
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muddawber wrote: Let's get back on track here, and stop chasing rabbits. There are questions that have not been answered.
How does the world demilitarization take place, with out a world war?
How does the New/One World Order come about, without the wholesale slaughter of millions of people?
How does a country retain it's autonomy, and still be in this order?
How do people retain their patriotism to their country?
How are they going to keep track of people?
If they have demilitarization, how will this new government control the masses?
What will this order do to those like me who refuse to fall in line?
Free.man, I can only guess you're hoping to close the thread down by not answering any viable question. Instead you're spewing rhetoric that doesn't make any sense at all! Are you not going to answer any of these questions? Is that what you teach your students, when confused, just bog the facts down with a bunch of crap? Your not representing you Faith very well here. Can you get someone who can actually answer questions that are asked?
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foxglovepress wrote: Free.man wrote: muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote: muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote:
The enemy of God is our own vain imaginations.
As for your interpretation of whats Biblical; I picked up a Book for you and me the other day. It's title is, "Grasping God's Word" and it is co-written by two Christians. A good read.
I appreciate your interpretations of the Bible; really I do. I always win because of it.
No, the enemy of God are those that oppose Him, and do not believe in Him, or His Son.
Just how do you figure you always win? It is only in your own mind that you win. You will, if you stay the course you are on, be the ultimate loser.
Dear friend,
I win because I believe in God
I win because I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
I win because I am Baha'i
I win because I always learn something from any/all interaction.
I win because I take it all to the bank. I teach others psychological profiling and rather then using made up role playing I have my students come to different forums as quests and profile real people. I get paid a ship load of $$$ for what I teach. The more bizarre the posts or the more people claim normality the better it is for my students to study them. The students project what their chosen subject person will say and then I post a response to that person to test my students profiling hunches.
I win because I continue to do crisis intervention work and the more practice I get the more affective and effective I become. As a result I already know what your next 5 or so posts will be like because I previously embedded information (stimuli) in my posts that I knew you could not resist responding too. You loose because I already profiled you long ago.
I win because I can whined you up and run you around all day long. No matter what your response is I just put it in a file and give it to a student to study.
I win because I was raised spelii(spee-lee-eye), the trickster; by a t'wati with the notion of mon'do.
I win because I'm a raconteur who gums his words with both sugar and honey.
I win because I'm always entertained, I go to bed late and I get a rise very, very early on.
I win because I never proffer more than I can afford to loose.
I win because I can yank the chain that you hang yourself with and there is not a thing you can do about it.
I win because I got to love you for being the way you are. If you were not yourself I'd have to find someone else to do my job for me in such meaningful way.
I win because you spread the Baha'i Faith all over the place for me.
I win because someone out there probably will read this whole post and take it all way too seriously.
I win because I had you at "Dear friend,".
I win because God knows I love mon'do and, and I'm a happy guy!
Free  man
And if your a==hole was as big as your ego, you would crap yourself to death, but that is another story for another thread.
Dear friend,
OOPs! Big word: A==hole. Can you hum that? Are you having a hard time spelling? Your sense of impropriety shows in the spelling but not in the use thereof? Go figure! Your vanity is showing.
I win . . . Again! I believe you, really. You figured that out all by yourself? You're my huckleberry but you're not much of a challenge, here.
J'adoube
I win because: I easily got your goat. When you come at me like this it is called a "tell". With each post you are yielding up more and more control over to me and letting your anger and disgust out and, and I'm takin it to the bank. My file on you is just growing. Cha-ching!
Goooood job!
Free.man
Free.man, do you think you could stay on topic here? I win, followed by all the weird stuff you're saying, isn't making any sense to me.......anyway. I want to see more actual text, and Baha'i beliefs rather then this weird stuff.
Dear friend,
I know it makes no sense to you. It is called "multiple embedded metaphors". It is designed as a series of stories, half told, to evoke the subject person to go into their own self and evaluate what is going on there. I'm working hard to give the guy an out. Alls he has to do is take it.
It does off handedly also address the issue of the post that started this thread in that JBF post something he found on the web that lacked verasity. JBF seems to enjoy posting such things that he understands little or nothing about. The Baha'is here usually point out the error. people get get confused, concerned or whatever. Some people get insistant that everything that is posted is absolute truth, so, I post "weird stuff", as you put it, to demonstrate that truth is most often more difficult to get to then one would hope; especially if one refuses to do the work and check things out for themself.
Nobody likes to go back to the beginning but I have found that often it is necessary to establish a baseline to proceed from. My basic message to others here is to seek such a baseline. I win because, in the end, everyone is so confused, that I walk off with the goods.
So, you are right. Stay focused. My first post was pointing out the errors in the first paragraph in JBF's post.
If you want we can go there?
Free.man
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Free.man wrote: foxglovepress wrote: Free.man wrote: muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote: muddawber wrote: Free.man wrote:
The enemy of God is our own vain imaginations.
As for your interpretation of whats Biblical; I picked up a Book for you and me the other day. It's title is, "Grasping God's Word" and it is co-written by two Christians. A good read.
I appreciate your interpretations of the Bible; really I do. I always win because of it.
No, the enemy of God are those that oppose Him, and do not believe in Him, or His Son.
Just how do you figure you always win? It is only in your own mind that you win. You will, if you stay the course you are on, be the ultimate loser.
Dear friend,
I win because I believe in God
I win because I believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
I win because I am Baha'i
I win because I always learn something from any/all interaction.
I win because I take it all to the bank. I teach others psychological profiling and rather then using made up role playing I have my students come to different forums as quests and profile real people. I get paid a ship load of $$$ for what I teach. The more bizarre the posts or the more people claim normality the better it is for my students to study them. The students project what their chosen subject person will say and then I post a response to that person to test my students profiling hunches.
I win because I continue to do crisis intervention work and the more practice I get the more affective and effective I become. As a result I already know what your next 5 or so posts will be like because I previously embedded information (stimuli) in my posts that I knew you could not resist responding too. You loose because I already profiled you long ago.
I win because I can whined you up and run you around all day long. No matter what your response is I just put it in a file and give it to a student to study.
I win because I was raised spelii(spee-lee-eye), the trickster; by a t'wati with the notion of mon'do.
I win because I'm a raconteur who gums his words with both sugar and honey.
I win because I'm always entertained, I go to bed late and I get a rise very, very early on.
I win because I never proffer more than I can afford to loose.
I win because I can yank the chain that you hang yourself with and there is not a thing you can do about it.
I win because I got to love you for being the way you are. If you were not yourself I'd have to find someone else to do my job for me in such meaningful way.
I win because you spread the Baha'i Faith all over the place for me.
I win because someone out there probably will read this whole post and take it all way too seriously.
I win because I had you at "Dear friend,".
I win because God knows I love mon'do and, and I'm a happy guy!
Free man
And if your a==hole was as big as your ego, you would crap yourself to death, but that is another story for another thread.
Dear friend,
OOPs! Big word: A==hole. Can you hum that? Are you having a hard time spelling? Your sense of impropriety shows in the spelling but not in the use thereof? Go figure! Your vanity is showing.
I win . . . Again! I believe you, really. You figured that out all by yourself? You're my huckleberry but you're not much of a challenge, here.
J'adoube
I win because: I easily got your goat. When you come at me like this it is called a "tell". With each post you are yielding up more and more control over to me and letting your anger and disgust out and, and I'm takin it to the bank. My file on you is just growing. Cha-ching!
Goooood job!
Free.man
Free.man, do you think you could stay on topic here? I win, followed by all the weird stuff you're saying, isn't making any sense to me.......anyway. I want to see more actual text, and Baha'i beliefs rather then this weird stuff.
Dear friend,
I know it makes no sense to you. It is called "multiple embedded metaphors". It is designed as a series of stories, half told, to evoke the subject person to go into their own self and evaluate what is going on there. I'm working hard to give the guy an out. Alls he has to do is take it.
It does off handedly also address the issue of the post that started this thread in that JBF post something he found on the web that lacked verasity. JBF seems to enjoy posting such things that he understands little or nothing about. The Baha'is here usually point out the error. people get get confused, concerned or whatever. Some people get insistant that everything that is posted is absolute truth, so, I post "weird stuff", as you put it, to demonstrate that truth is most often more difficult to get to then one would hope; especially if one refuses to do the work and check things out for themself.
Nobody likes to go back to the beginning but I have found that often it is necessary to establish a baseline to proceed from. My basic message to others here is to seek such a baseline. I win because, in the end, everyone is so confused, that I walk off with the goods.
So, you are right. Stay focused. My first post was pointing out the errors in the first paragraph in JBF's post.
If you want we can go there?
Free.man
I don't think that statement is true Free.man about walking away with the goods. By not answering the questions Mud has very simply put to you, you're not coming across as a winner. I know you believe very strongly in your faith. I'm waiting to see some true and real argument as to why you are so strong. I've heard before that the Bahia's are for the new world order, and I'd really like to see you answer these questions. Because right now, that statement looks to be very true.........
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muddawber wrote: Let's get back on track here, and stop chasing rabbits. There are questions that have not been answered.
How does the world demilitarization take place, with out a world war?
How does the New/One World Order come about, without the wholesale slaughter of millions of people?
How does a country retain it's autonomy, and still be in this order?
How do people retain their patriotism to their country?
How are they going to keep track of people?
If they have demilitarization, how will this new government control the masses?
What will this order do to those like me who refuse to fall in line?
Dear friend,
OK! back on subject.
All good questions. Hopefully other Baha'is will help answer these.
I will give it try.
I have several meetings I have to go to righ now but I do want to address each one of these when I return. I'm sure you won't let me forget.
First question: Baha'u'llah says that the world will become so tired of the wars and killing that a majority of countries will sign an agreement to limit themselves. This will be difficult to maintain for quite some time. These countries will agree about what happens collectively if any one of them goes against their own agreement. They agree to regulate themselves. The Baha'i Faith will have little or no role in this.
There is more, but I got to go!
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