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You have to understand your own logic.  It's like me saying Two-headed Planet-sized Lesbian Aliens put people here and I use a certain book as my guide that some wacko wrote long ago.  You disagree.  I asked you for documentation or eye witnesses that say those Aliens are not the "truth."  Then I ask you how you can have a better position, opinion, or relationship with those Aliens when I have the great foundation I do.

You demonstrate a loss of critical and objective thinking skills when you assume your personal subjective feelings are truth for all and it comes off as delusional to me when you act like your faith is fact and that you know more about God because you've decided you've picked the right text and test games, which include Loving God torturing people in hell for all eternity.

So please understand that you are not starting off, in my mind, with a better or more accurate relationships or take on God than me.  You simply know your particular religious club better than I do.  Which I am thankful for.

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How does someone know it's God who answered the prayer? Without a foundation... how does one know?

If you never meet your dad, read about him or saw him... how would you know it's him if he was standing in front of you?


You have to screw up your courage and make a decision.

You know what the Bible says about the 'lukewarm', right?

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Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

Matthew 24:4
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?
I believe none of us are qualified to know absolute truths.  In practical terms, I believe there are truths (like, I am alive right now) but many truths are very relative and variable.




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24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?
I believe none of us are qualified to know absolute truths. 


So is this verse offensive to a world that doesn't believe in absolute truth?

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father accept by Me."

John 14:6




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: 24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?
I believe none of us are qualified to know absolute truths. 


So is this verse offensive to a world that doesn't believe in absolute truth?

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father accept by Me."

John 14:6


God is an absolute truth.

Jesus is a relative truth.

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Popeyesays wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: 24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?
I believe none of us are qualified to know absolute truths. 


So is this verse offensive to a world that doesn't believe in absolute truth?

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father accept by Me."

John 14:6


God is an absolute truth.

Jesus is a relative truth.

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: 24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Frank,

Do you believe in truth or is everything variable, changing and unsteady?
I believe none of us are qualified to know absolute truths. 


So is this verse offensive to a world that doesn't believe in absolute truth?

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father accept by Me."

John 14:6


You are going to have to ask "the world" for that answer.  I don't find it offensive, I find it in-line with archaic embellishments.




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: sirlamre wrote:
There is only ONE way to God =----- the way that GOD wants you to come to Him.

Nothing but prayer and humility can show you that path. NOTHING.




So you tell people to pray with humility and whatever comes to mind is the way, the path, the answer?

::surp::

 



So you say to God : "I don't believe You can inspire me - I won't pray to You fir inspiration or truth, because I can't trust the answer. You are incapable of proving to me that You are answering my prayer for guidance!"

 
I trust God when I pray to Him.

Evidently you don't.

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How can it be that people can pray to God and get different answers ranging from organized religion and divine text is all BS to the Bahai scriptures are divine?




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24HourNut wrote: How can it be that people can pray to God and get different answers ranging from organized religion and divine text is all BS to the Bahai scriptures are divine?

God's Will for that individual.

Notice that the phrase "God says He's going to kill anyone who isn't a Christian" does not appear in the Bible.

He says "believers" and things like that.  Christians however, decide that that means "Christian" and not "believer in God and in Jesus"


Heck, some Christians decided that He maens "anyone who doesn't go to a Christian church I approve of every Sunday"





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sirlamre wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: sirlamre wrote:
There is only ONE way to God =----- the way that GOD wants you to come to Him.

Nothing but prayer and humility can show you that path. NOTHING.




So you tell people to pray with humility and whatever comes to mind is the way, the path, the answer?

::surp::

 



So you say to God : "I don't believe You can inspire me - I won't pray to You fir inspiration or truth, because I can't trust the answer. You are incapable of proving to me that You are answering my prayer for guidance!"

 
I trust God when I pray to Him.

Evidently you don't.


Mormon's pray for guidance from God... are they getting it from God sirlamre?

Finatical Muslim suicide bombers pray for guidance from God...are they getting answers from God sirlamre?

David Koresh from the Brand Dividians prayed for guidance from God and trusted in the answer...did he get guidance from God sirlamre?

The Bahai faith leaves an open door for deception.

 




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Mormon's pray for guidance from God... are they getting it from God sirlamre? Finatical Muslim suicide bombers pray for guidance from God...are they getting answers from God sirlamre? David Koresh from the Brand Dividians prayed for guidance from God and trusted in the answer...did he get guidance from God sirlamre? The Bahai faith leaves an open door for deception.


Fanatical, delusional Christians who think good people are going to burn in hell for all eternity, Lovingly, pray to God ... are they getting answers from God?

The Christian faith leaves the door open to ignorance and absurdity.




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24HourNut wrote: Mormon's pray for guidance from God... are they getting it from God sirlamre? Finatical Muslim suicide bombers pray for guidance from God...are they getting answers from God sirlamre? David Koresh from the Brand Dividians prayed for guidance from God and trusted in the answer...did he get guidance from God sirlamre? The Bahai faith leaves an open door for deception.


Fanatical, delusional Christians who think good people are going to burn in hell for all eternity, Lovingly, pray to God ... are they getting answers from God?



We (Christians) get our answers from the bible. Sirlamre's advice leaves peoples minds wide open for deception.

If sirlamre can answer "yes" to my previous three different scenarios... the Bahai faith's method of "generic" guidance is insecure and fleeting.




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We (Christians) get our answers from the bible.

I know - that is why the same questions apply to you because that doesn't mean you get your answers from God.  You FEEL or BELIEVE you do, but it's quite obvious to many that the Bible is not from God (or at very least, your interpretation of it).  Especially since it houses absurd, archaic things like good people lovingly burning in Hell, lovingly tortured for all eternity.  Lovingly.




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