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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Jesus...above every other name
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The Bahai plan: "A unity of all the peoples and religions of the earth is the destined hallmark of this age. Governments and peoples must work to secure world peace, a world auxiliary language, a world government, the abolition of all forms of racial, national, and religious prejudice, the ending of all forms of economic and chattel slavery, the abolition of extremes of wealth and poverty, and the equality of the sexes. Religion and true science must harmonize." The bible does not teach "blending" with the world or developing a "unity" with other beliefs or religions. Jesus preached a gospel about "salvation through faith in Him alone". The world is not on the same page nor is the Bahai faith going in the direction of Christ or His followers The attempt at unity of all peoples under mixed belief systems is in my opinion "insanity" at best. It "sounds" good but I don't see it in Jesus plans or the bible.
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: The Bahai plan: "A unity of all the peoples and religions of the earth is the destined hallmark of this age. Governments and peoples must work to secure world peace, a world auxiliary language, a world government, the abolition of all forms of racial, national, and religious prejudice, the ending of all forms of economic and chattel slavery, the abolition of extremes of wealth and poverty, and the equality of the sexes. Religion and true science must harmonize." Dear friend, Thank you, JBF! 61. O SON OF MAN! A dewdrop out of the fathomless ocean of My mercy I have shed upon the peoples of the world, yet found none turn thereunto, inasmuch as every one hath turned away from the celestial wine of unity unto the foul dregs of impurity, and, content with mortal cup, hath put away the chalice of immortal beauty. Vile is that wherewith he is contented. (Baha'u'llah, The Persian Hidden Words) 64. O SON OF MAN! My eternity is My creation, I have created it for thee. Make it the garment of thy temple. My unity is My handiwork; I have wrought it for thee; clothe thyself therewith, that thou mayest be to all eternity the revelation of My everlasting being. (Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words) Free  man
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JustifiedByFaith wrote:
Actually the Bible DOES speak of just that. Unity of of the message for mankind through a succession of Revelations is an unmistakeable feature of the testaments of the Bible and one canno cherry-pick one's way through to any other conclusions. The message of the Bible is Unity. Now we might argue as to how the Bible preaches finality, but unity? No. Regards, Scott
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Jesus...above every other name
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Popeyesays wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Really? Could you give me the bible passages that teach and promote "blending" with the world and developing a "unity" with other beliefs or religions?
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Popeyesays wrote:JustifiedByFaith wrote: JBF, we both know there are no verses in the Bible that teaches thos unity, other than unity within THE CHURCH and unity with THE CHRIST. The Bible calls us out of the world, or world system, and to not conform to this world. Any teaching that calls us into unity with the world is false.
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Why WOULDN'T something divine teach and command unity and world peace? I don't get it ... Why the focus on division and fighting and all that? Isn't the ultimate goal to live in harmony, together, under one God, in unity? So we all get along and have peace? Isn't that the whole point of organized religion? For all to pick the right one and live happily ever after under one God, in peace and harmony? Otherwise, we REALLY don't need it.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Jesus...above every other name
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Jesus didn't teach "world peace". Jesus said that He is our peace. In Him we have "peace". Jesus taught that in the world we will have "tribulation". The Bahai faith preaches a completely different gospel than that of Jesus and the Christian faith.
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I don't understand a religion that wouldn't call for world peace and harmony.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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24HourNut wrote: Why WOULDN'T something divine teach and command unity and world peace? I don't get it ... Why the focus on division and fighting and all that? Isn't the ultimate goal to live in harmony, together, under one God, in unity? So we all get along and have peace? Isn't that the whole point of organized religion? For all to pick the right one and live happily ever after under one God, in peace and harmony? Otherwise, we REALLY don't need it. I think the bible does teach unity and world peace, but not the way the world understands peace. The peace the bible speaks of is to bring all of creation back to God, in acknowledgement that he is the creator. The peace means oneness, and it signifies a peace with God, and being one with Him. Jesus said my peace I give unto you, not as the world giveth... This is a spiritual peace we have, and it is not brought about by a one world system of government, that will force their peace on us. It is my belief, that until the world recognizes Jesus as the Son of God, and accepts Him as Lord and saviour, then there will be no peace. I know you hate the archaic text based organized religions, Frank, but you might do well to look inside yourself. You seem to me, to be one of those who is angry, and maybe brought up in the Catholic Church with their stringent rules and regulations. I have seen many like this out of the Catholic Church who have lost any belief they had in God because of the abuse of power by the church. One thing to keep in mind, the bible says to not be conformed by the world, but to be transformed by the rnewing of your mind. If we follow after this one world order, and the peace it offers, we have conformed to the world view, and missed the boat.
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muddawber wrote: 24HourNut wrote:Why WOULDN'T something divine teach and command unity and world peace? I don't get it ... Why the focus on division and fighting and all that? Isn't the ultimate goal to live in harmony, together, under one God, in unity? So we all get along and have peace? Isn't that the whole point of organized religion? For all to pick the right one and live happily ever after under one God, in peace and harmony? Otherwise, we REALLY don't need it. More annoyed that angry I think, but I appreciate that. The point of any religion that is divine should be to unite the world in peace and harmony. Practical, real, peace and harmony. It should be the goal of all people to live together in peace on this planet. One thing the Bahais have right is that the time for wars and not putting our collective minds together to solve problems and improve things should come to an end. All this other stuff seems like total BS to me. I believe God would want everyone to stop fighting and picking clubs and instead, focus on being good to each other and working together.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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24HourNut wrote: muddawber wrote:24HourNut wrote:Why WOULDN'T something divine teach and command unity and world peace? I don't get it ... Why the focus on division and fighting and all that? Isn't the ultimate goal to live in harmony, together, under one God, in unity? So we all get along and have peace? Isn't that the whole point of organized religion? For all to pick the right one and live happily ever after under one God, in peace and harmony? Otherwise, we REALLY don't need it. I agree with you to a point, but, I think God wants us to focus on Him. Even if we put our collective minds together, it would not solve a thing. There is always going to be those who think their mind is superior to others, and back to square one. As for the world to unite in peace and harmony, I don't think the world will realize this, until they have peace and harmony with God. Last edited on 09:05 pm by muddawber |
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I take that back - you're right. I am angry. I am angry that the world is still threatened and held back by the archaic nonsense that ties all these organized religions together. Our biggest threat is still tied to this nonsense. I am angry that people care more about which club they think is right and what strangers wrote long ago, then they are actually working together to establish real peace. Not to mention how I think it fueled a lot of bad stuff WHILE delaying and opposing the principles of freedom and the fruit of freedom.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Jesus...above every other name
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So do you support the Bahai plan as stated below Frank? A unity of all the peoples and religions of the earth is the destined hallmark of this age. Governments and peoples must work to secure world peace, a world auxiliary language, a world government, the abolition of all forms of racial, national, and religious prejudice, the ending of all forms of economic and chattel slavery, the abolition of extremes of wealth and poverty, and the equality of the sexes. Religion and true science must harmonize.
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24HourNut wrote: I take that back - you're right. I am angry. I am angry that the world is still threatened and held back by the archaic nonsense that ties all these organized religions together. Our biggest threat is still tied to this nonsense. I am angry that people care more about which club they think is right and what strangers wrote long ago, then they are actually working together to establish real peace. Not to mention how I think it fueled a lot of bad stuff WHILE delaying and opposing the principles of freedom and the fruit of freedom. Take a deep breath, Frank. You are going to have to find peace within yourself, before you can work on peace in the world. Take it from me, all that anger will destroy you. I know, I've been down the same road you are travelling, and have had the same thoughts about the Bible and God, and have shook my fist in His face and demanded answers. It wasn't until I was able to calm down, and take a look at God in a different light, that I was able to get on with life.
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: So do you support the Bahai plan as stated below Frank? I am not sure I would go that far. I would go as far as the principles of freedom would allow, basically. So, for example, I would not be for wealth redistribution to a degree that hampers capitalism and free markets. Too much important good comes from those things.
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