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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > Librtyhead's Hobbies & Collectibles > Colt Model 1911A1 |
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cdmead Original500© Member 
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Just out of curiousity, how much did he want? And what did you see when you took it apart? BTW - if you want a decent shooter GI type .45, the Rock Island ones are pretty good I hear - especially for about $300 NIB.
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Aquila Original500© Member 
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He said he paid $1200 for 15 years ago. He wanted $2000. I am not an expert on these but when I field stripped it was a bear getting it apart. no trace of having been oiled, heavy wear marks and what looked and felt like burrs and spurs on the parts. the recoil spring was bent. The barrel had thick carbon deposits in between the twists on the lug end and some nicks also. the twists (rifling) was worn almost smooth with the barrel on the muzzle end. It seemded obvious to me that a ton of rounds went throught that barrel recently with no cleaning done. It really turned me off when I looked close. Then it got me a little mad that a piece of history like that was mistreated. I decided to move on. A Rock Island .45 for $300! I must see on of these!
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cdmead Original500© Member
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Sounds like you did the right thing. WW2 45 ACP ammo was corrosive, so it's possible there was some pitting in there too. I don't need another .45, but I'm seriously thinking about getting a Rock Island just for the price.
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Aquila Original500© Member
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I'm reading reviews on the Rock Island .45. I hope my local dealer has some in stock. I remember when the Taurus 9mm first came out ans was a big hit at a great price. I think it was half the cost of a Browning Hi-Power 9mm.
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cdmead Original500© Member
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Just out of curiousity, how much did he want? And what did you see when you took it apart? BTW - if you want a decent shooter GI type .45, the Rock Island ones are pretty good I hear - especially for about $300 NIB.
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shirohniichan Original500© Member  Obscurius per obscurum
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cdmead wrote: Just out of curiousity, how much did he want? Doctor, doctor! I'm getting the strangest feeling of deja vu. A 1911A1 for $300?! Where can I get one?
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cdmead Original500© Member
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shirohniichan wrote: cdmead wrote:Just out of curiousity, how much did he want? Texas. [This thread to reappear randomly for the next 24 hours]
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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What would be the approximate value of a Colt built in 1914 (serial number around a couple thousand) in absolutely mint condition, with the walnut stocks still in perfect shape. This pistol has been parkerized (arsenal rebuilt in the 1920s?), but otherwise absolutely original and perfect; it was in cosmoline for decades and looks like it hasn't ever been fired. Also, what would be the value of a similar Colt with an even lower number with the original bluing; I believe it has a C in the serial number (civilian version). One more question, what is the value of a SAA 45 revolver from 1875, in excellent original condition?
 Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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cdmead Original500© Member
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The GI Colt would be worth anywhere from $1000 to $1500 retail. I've seen them sell for that at gunshows around here. The civilian Colt (that's what the C before the serial number means) would be worth at least as much if not more if the bluing was all intact. The SAA would be worth $1000 (for a basic junker) and up depending upon originality, caliber, finish, grips and other things. Please note, it is not safe to shoot any firearm from 1875 with modern smokeless powder cartridges (even of the same caliber) as these pistols were built to shoot blackpowder. Boom in hand hurts. Charlie 
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cdmead Original500© Member
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I did some checking about the commercial Colt Government Model. If the serial number is below C4500, these are considered "early models" and command a huge premium. Oh and if the SAA is verifiably from 1875, it's probably a five figure pistol (retail) in decent condition. Look on the frame above the trigger guard for "U.S." and on the stocks for an inspector's cartouche (usually three letters in an oval) to see if it's military. Please be aware, a lot of modern replicas have been "bubba'd" to appear older. Charlie Last edited on 05:13 pm by cdmead |
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1jester Pioneer100© Member Pilgrim Sojourner
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Thanks for the info, CD. The SAA is authentic and original and the serial number puts its date of manufacture at 1875. It's in excellent condition. The Civilian Colt 1911 has a serial number around 1600, and the bluing is all there. The other military 1911 has a serial number around 6000, I believe. Would the large premium you referred to for the civilian model also carry over to this military model?
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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Wow!  Good stuff you got there. IMHO, the civilian Colt, if correct, would be probably worth more than the military Colt if in the same condition. The civilian models were very hard to get originally as military contracts monopolized most of the production line. Also, survival rates were lower as a lot of the early military models were presentation pieces. If I had something like them in an auction, I'd probably place estimates of $3000 and up on the GI Colt and $5000 and up on the civilian model. Please note, there was an Argentine contract pistol that had its own serial number line without the "C" prefix. They also have the Argentine crest on them. One of those would be worth considerably less. If your SAA is military, I'd put an auction estimate on it of $30,000 and up. If civilian, $25,000 and up. There would be, of course, differences for caliber, grips and finish. I hope this helps, Charlie
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1jester Pioneer100© Member Pilgrim Sojourner
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Charlie, the information does help a lot! Thanks a bunch. The civilian Colt 1911 does have a C in the serial number, and it's engraved with the name of a Colonel for the Canadian army; it appears to be some kind of presentation piece. So it does look like it's associated with the military, but it's a civilian model. The SAA is a 6-inch barrel model.
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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