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Wendybird Original500© Member  Freakaloo Whackadoo.......
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How in heck do I get my darn cats to stop bringing mice into the house?  They know that if they bring mice in I will immediately take them from them and release them somewhere while they get locked in the house for 20 minutes! You think they would learn but OH No..................yesterday I had 4 bloomin mice brought in! 1 dead and 3 very much alive and kicking. One of the damn mice even bit me the little bugger! I was only trying to rescue it and the little sod decides to repay me by chomping on my finger!  Is there anything I can do to stop them from bringing these things in the house? When I go home every day and have to remive carcasses it is bad enough but we are on holiday next week. A friend is coming in morning and evening to feed and water the cats and my neighbour lets them into her house for some love and cuddles but I HATE to think how many dead mice there will be after a week! 
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member  Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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Well, you can make it so they only go outside for certain times during the day. Not in and out all day long. There is nothing you can do. It's what a cat does and they are bringing you these 'gifts' because they are doing it for you! In their eyes anyway. They know thier job and they're doing it very well. I limit my cat's time outdoors and don't let them out at night or early morning when hunting is abundant. My cats mostly bring in birds. I have gotten one rabbit and one squirrel once. Not babies either! I think my cats think they are lions and not domestic cats!
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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Yes, there is a solution. Two words: Squirt Bottle! A sharp "No!" followed by a quick squirt on the head and they'll quicklylearn that corpse relocation is a bad habit not tolerated in the home.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Sure there's something you can do. Don't let them go outside. And no "training" and no vocal discipline will take the instinct to hunt out of a cat.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Wendybird Original500© Member Freakaloo Whackadoo.......
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I already knew there was nothing I could do to stop them. lol But it helped having a moan about it. Strangely they always bring "gifts" during the day. Not at night or early morning. I couldn't stop them from going out. They have a cat flap and come and go as they please. I am at work so much that it wouldn't be fair to lock them in the house. They are too independant for that. Thanks anyway guys. I may start a mouse collection and send you all one for Christmas. 
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Wendybird wrote: Thanks anyway guys. I may start a mouse collection and send you all one for Christmas. Hey, there's a compromise for ya! I'll take all the mice you've got. I have a snake to feed! 
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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UsedToRide wrote: Sure there's something you can do. Don't let them go outside. And no "training" and no vocal discipline will take the instinct to hunt out of a cat. True, but keeping a cat inside seems a bit cruel to me. And it's also true that they will still hunt, but they won't bring their "trophies" into the house anymore! I've had so many cats, I forget them all, and the squirt bottle is the best behavior re-enforcement device I've ever found. It's amazingly effective since they hate the water-on-fur feeling, but it has the advantage of being harmless compared to swat. Hitting animals only teaches them to fear humans, but they have difficulty connecting the squirt bottle to the human being, so there's no human-anxiety. Trust me, my mouser used to bring in everything from birds to lizards when he ws a kitten. Now he's the picture of a well-behaved cat! he looks something like this but bigger: Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Since we are all in agreement that there is nothing to do about this, let me go one step further. One of the biggest problems people have when training their pets is they discipline when the animal doesn't understand what it is being disciplined for. If you try to discipline your cat for bringing in a mouse, it is not aware that what you don't want is the mouse in the house. The cat figues, "My house, my prey, I'm bringing it here, where it's safe." When I did behavior training as a JOB, I would tell the clients that I was training them, not their pet. You have to speak the language the animal understands. People anthropomorphizing their animals is the toughest thing to get past. They are animals, not people and they don't understand human words the way we do. A dog will learn to sit on the command of "pickle" if that's the word you choose to use. The word itself doesn't matter, the animal needs to understand the behavior it is supposed to take when that word is spoken, which comes from consistency and repetition.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Since we are all in agreement that there is nothing to do about this, let me go one step further. Huh? Behavior modification is a time-honored and effective process. It works like a charm! One of the biggest problems people have when training their pets is they discipline when the animal doesn't understand what it is being disciplined for. Sure it does, that's why you must use the squirt bottle immediately when the cat brings the mouse in, if you wait it won't be effective. If you try to discipline your cat for bringing in a mouse, it is not aware that what you don't want is the mouse in the house. How do you know? I don't think you are giving the cat enough credit. They are pretty smart. The cat figues, "My house, my prey, I'm bringing it here, where it's safe." Which is exactly why you need to send the immediate message, "Sorry, my house, no mouse!" LOL! They are animals, not people and they don't understand human words the way we do. ROFL! I agree, but they understand "wet" really well! consistency and repetition. Again, I agree. You need to squirt the cat every time it tries the behavior you don't want, what ever it may be. This method works equally well for all kinds of negative behaviors such as walking on the counters, scratching the furniture, biting, bringing in mice, whatever! It's really effective, Trust me, I've used it on seven cats recently and every one of them is a perfect gentlecat, well-behaved and mannered! 
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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UsedToRide wrote: Since we are all in agreement that there is nothing to do about this, let me go one step further. One of the biggest problems people have when training their pets is they discipline when the animal doesn't understand what it is being disciplined for. If you try to discipline your cat for bringing in a mouse, it is not aware that what you don't want is the mouse in the house. The cat figues, "My house, my prey, I'm bringing it here, where it's safe." When I did behavior training as a JOB, I would tell the clients that I was training them, not their pet. You have to speak the language the animal understands. People anthropomorphizing their animals is the toughest thing to get past. They are animals, not people and they don't understand human words the way we do. A dog will learn to sit on the command of "pickle" if that's the word you choose to use. The word itself doesn't matter, the animal needs to understand the behavior it is supposed to take when that word is spoken, which comes from consistency and repetition.  Exactly. I am training a puppy now for my site. I found the owners lied and this poor thing is a total mess. They live on a busy road and guess what? I cannot get it through the mother's head that the dog should not be off a leash.You don't want to know the argument. Typing it would just be too 'stupid'. Anyway, Saint is right about the water bottle. I use it all the time, but not all cats hate water. Iggy will sit IN the shower with me every day. I had another one, Fugly who used to SWIM - yes SWIM - in the horses water trough all the time! But to get through to ANY species of animal you need to think like them and not teach them to think like you. You will get far fast if you adhere to this and stay CONSISTENT. Saint, sometimes depending on where one lives, inside only is the best and only choice. I've had this bunch of cats as indoor only, both and any combination in between over the last 19 years and they didn't complain one whit. For some reason they understand or at the very least, they are so comfortable in this house with me they don't complain. Happy cats I guess! Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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Anyway, Saint is right about the water bottle. I use it all the time, but not all cats hate water. Iggy will sit IN the shower with me every day. I had another one, Fugly who used to SWIM - yes SWIM - in the horses water trough all the time! LOL! That must have been a sight! But you bet, I guess anything that the animal doesn't like, (but is not harmful to them) would work. A sharp whistle for instance. You will get far fast if you adhere to this and stay CONSISTENT. How true! It's just like raising children. (The consistency part, not the squirt bottle!! Hahaha!) Saint, sometimes depending on where one lives, inside only is the best and only choice. I've had this bunch of cats as indoor only, both and any combination in between over the last 19 years and they didn't complain one whit. For some reason they understand or at the very least, they are so comfortable in this house with me they don't complain. Happy cats I guess! Yep, I can see that in a big city for instance, or like an apartment complex where there's no room for them to play anyway and too many cars around. Someone told me that if you want to have an indoor cat, it's really important to never let them out so they don't see what they're missing. Is that true?
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Saint wrote: Anyway, Saint is right about the water bottle. I use it all the time, but not all cats hate water. Iggy will sit IN the shower with me every day. I had another one, Fugly who used to SWIM - yes SWIM - in the horses water trough all the time!
You will get far fast if you adhere to this and stay CONSISTENT.
Saint, sometimes depending on where one lives, inside only is the best and only choice. I've had this bunch of cats as indoor only, both and any combination in between over the last 19 years and they didn't complain one whit. For some reason they understand or at the very least, they are so comfortable in this house with me they don't complain. Happy cats I guess!
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Twitchin Kitten wrote:
Now that I consider a compliment. Thanks, TK. I always told my clients that the single most important command to instill and be sure is obeyed instantly is "here". Not after you call the dog 4 or 5 times, but instant and unquestioning obedience. Once their dog was hit by a car, I always got a call back to go through this again.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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