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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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No, we are humans. The difference being that we are intelligent enough to control our instincts, whereas pit bulls cannot. If pit bulls could be trained to ignore their breeding and never attack children or people, I'd be all for them. But they cannot, as evidenced by attack after attack. Let's pray that no one we know will ever have to prove my point.
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Sweet Pea Original500© Member 
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Lady Cop wrote: well i'm by no means stupid. i would really like to know why we see story after story after story about pit bulls attacking, mauling, and even killing people. it's a legitimate question. I'll tell you why, because pitties are the "breed du jour". Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"? I'm surprised somebody didn't haul out his tired old "friend's grandmother eaten by pits" story. I just bumped a thread with pics of a pit mix therapy dog. To qualify to be a therapy dog, they go through rigorous testing. They simply couldn't attain the certificate if there was ANY chance they'd "go nuts" some day. Think about it. Here's a site for all the nimrods out there who think pitts are a "bad breed". http://www.badrap.org/rescue/ Last edited on 04:49 pm by Sweet Pea |
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member  Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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Look how vicious..... Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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Think about it. Thanks Sweet Pea, I'll be adding this in the useful links section. And on my site as well. LOL that last dog, the black one, looks just like my Daisy.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Sweet Pea wrote: Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"? This is one I don't get. People make up shit like that to continue to propegate their fear of these dogs. I watched a program a while back where they tested the bite pressure of several breeds. The rottweiler beat the pit hands down. In fact, in the testing I saw done, the pit came in 3rd for bite force. God forbid someone actually do some unbiased research into the subject and learn about the thousands of pits that do not attack. The old saying is true: "Ignorance is bliss". Get a story about a dog attacking someone and unless it's a pit, it doesn't even make news. Slap that pit bull breed into the story and people flock to it like moths to a flame.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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UsedToRide wrote: Sweet Pea wrote:Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"?  OH yeah another stupid myth. I had a rat terrier when we were kids. Her jaws 'locked' too when she grabbed hold of something she didn't want to let go of.Hey! I've an idea!  Let's go after hamsters too. I've had to shake quite a few off due to them latching onto a finger and 'locking' up on my hand!The 'locking jaw's crap is only and ONLY part of the TERRIER trait. they are TENACIOUS and they are only keeping what they think is theirs, just like ANY OTHER DOG. ALL dogs latch onto things like this when they get a mind to do so. EVEN soft mouthed bird dogs.
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cynicalninja Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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Twitchin Kitten wrote: UsedToRide wrote:I am so sick of this small-minded, uneducated, ignorant stupidity that we see all the time about these dogs. Where is the outcry and screaming to ban cars that kill hundreds of thousands of more people than ANY dog ever has? When are people going to scream for banning backyard pools that kill hundreds of children a year? Let's ban stupid sports like mountain climbing, and ice hockey. Hell, lets just ban ice skating altogether. Actually, let's ban people from hunting. People kill more animals a year than any dog. I myself have killed more animals than any pit bull ever has. I'd rather face an angry Pit Bull wearing a muzzle, than an angry pit bull without a muzzle. The difference between having my leg humped and having my face ripped off being the clinching factor for me. Pit Bulls were not originally bred to be household pets but fighting dogs. I don't think that they should be banned really, although there are many places around the world who have taken this measure. I don't think a dog particularly likes being on a lead either but thems the breaks fido !
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cynicalninja Original500© Member Smiling Shinobi
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Twitchin Kitten wrote: UsedToRide wrote:Sweet Pea wrote:Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"? Trying to draw parallels between a Hamster biting your finger and a Pit Bull mauling a child to death ? Here is some straw kitten please feel free to clutch at it. Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Twitchin Kitten wrote: Hey! I've an idea! If a hard jaw grip is cause for banning pets, we better ban my snake. He has even bitten my husband once. Of course, that was Bullet's fault. Fuzzy was being fed and Bullet's hand, smelling like the mice he'd just handled, got a strike. And here's another interesting tidbit. I've worked in animal medicine for years. I've been bitten by many dogs. The worst bite I ever got was from a labrador. And here's the really odd part. The dog was MUZZLED. I have a scar on my right hand that runs from the back of my hand right below my fingers, around my wrist, and is about 5 inches long. This was also MY fault. I was intubating the dog alone, and even though he had the initial sedative in him, and again, was MUZZLED, he was still able to rip my hand open. If I'd had an assistant with me to properly restrain the dog, I would not have gotten bit.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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Sweet Pea Original500© Member
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cynicalninja wrote: Twitchin Kitten wrote: UsedToRide wrote:Sweet Pea wrote:Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"?
I'm sure at some point in time I've missed SARCASM, too.
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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cynicalninja wrote: Twitchin Kitten wrote:UsedToRide wrote:Sweet Pea wrote:Can we please put paid to the MYTH that their jaws "lock"? You OBVIOUSLY missed the analogy. I was commenting on how locking jaws is not inherent only to pit bulls. Here's a story for you from my own life experiences. My grade school was literally 200 feet from our house. We used to take the 'short cut' through the woods because there was a Saint Bernard in someone's back yard. We loved to go pet the dog. He was wonderful, cuddly soft and a giant love. All the kids loved this dog. Several months down the road this dog 'went pit bull' and mauled their 3 year old child to death. Everyone was shocked. My mom totally freaked. They later found that upon examination of the deceased dog (they freaked and killed the dog right off) they found a three inch piece of broken pencil in the dogs ear. Gee I wonder how that got in there? Now It's awful they lost a child. Of course, but people always forget that these are DOGS they keep and not something that can rationalize like humans can. They are always going to behave and act and REACT likd DOGS. Dogs live in packs. They behave like they belong to the pack. Their pack is usually the human family. Which by the way is almost always sure to NOT know how to teach their family pet to BEHAVE in the pack and give the dog the proper place in the pack where he needs to be to understand his family structure. I cannot tell you how many times I hear from owner's whose dogs did something 'bad' that "well he knows what I expect from him" or "well he knows that chocolate is not good for him" or "well he knows that little Jimmy is just a baby" 
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cynicalninja Original500© Member Smiling Shinobi
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A muzzle is still a practical and humane way of lessening the likelihood of a dog biting somebody or mauling a child to death. A few years ago, a policeman brought his police dog into our office while giving crime details, the dog (a large german shepherd) was fine off the lead, but then he thought it would be clever to put the dog on the lead at which point the dog went freaking beserk. He thought it was very amusing until it grabbed a colleague of mine by the ankle, he didn't think that was very amusing as he saw his career flash before his eyes, he also didn't think is was very amusing when I hit the dog on the back with a metal chair to get it to let go. He was "required" to resign a few weeks later, prick ! Thats the kind of machismo that unfortunately goes hand in hand with some of these more dangerous breeds of dog or exotic animals. To some people they are a symbol of intimidation and rebellion, not the animals fault as such. If I were to visit someones house and any animal they had "went for me" through no fault of my own, said animal would find the nearest heavy object to hand landing very hard on its cranial area until I perceived the threat was gone. Humans are indeed animals, and as a member of the species on the top of the food chain I reserve the right to use my animal instincts to protect myself from some mutt with attitude problem.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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cynicalninja wrote: Pit Bulls were not originally bred to be household pets but fighting dogs. The reason for breeding a specific type of dog varies from breed to breed. And yet again, it is people who have done what they have done to every breed across the board. A certain look in a breed is favored for one reason or another and that physical trait is brought in and when what the people want the dog to look like is acheived, a new breed is born. This is another issue I came across frequently when involved in behavioral training. People got a pet because it was cute. Then they learned that this type of dog didn't suit their lifestyle. The owner needs to be matched with the type of dog suitable to the life of the owner. Not because it's pretty, or cute or small or looks like a tough dog. People don't seem to understand that every breed out there today, came from a wolf. A smaller size, a larger size, a certain color or marking, something came about in a wolf and people who domesticated the animals made that trait keep coming up. The flat little faces of pugs, the sleek lines of a greyhound, the prick ears on a German Shepherd, they are all instances of what people liked about the way an animal looked and continued to cause in a given line. The issues we see with breeds is the fault of PEOPLE. The bad back we see in Dachsunds, the respiratory issues we see in pugs, the dysplasia we see in Shepherds. We made the dogs, then we blame the dogs for what we ourselves have done to them. Take some accountability. We caused it, then we whine about the results of us playing God. Last edited on 05:57 pm by UsedToRide Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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cynicalninja wrote: A muzzle is still a practical and humane way of lessening the likelihood of a dog biting somebody or mauling a child to death. A few years ago we thought a lobotomy was a practical and humane way to "fix" issues with people. I find it unfortunate that we don't still apply it to some.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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Twitchin Kitten Pioneer100© Member Don't Dream It ~ Be It
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UsedToRide wrote: cynicalninja wrote:A muzzle is still a practical and humane way of lessening the likelihood of a dog biting somebody or mauling a child to death.
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