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 Posted: 11-01-2007 08:10 pm

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fla. supreme court denied him a stay of execution today, but i bet it does get stayed. ( scheduled for the 15th) and i've so been looking forward to it. ::gohell:: all executions have been stayed recently.






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 Posted: 11-01-2007 08:27 pm

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 Posted: 11-01-2007 08:39 pm

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If the idea is to avoid prolonged suffering of the condemned (God knows why, but let's just go with that...), then what's so wrong about a good old-fashioned double-tap to the brain??:dunno:




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 Posted: 11-02-2007 04:39 pm

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Brian wrote: If the idea is to avoid prolonged suffering of the condemned (God knows why, but let's just go with that...), then what's so wrong about a good old-fashioned double-tap to the brain??:dunno:

Too gory?

I really wonder about the objections to execution. If lethal injections take too long to work and cause "suffering", why not use a guillotine? That's too bloody? Are we looking for a means of execution that appears benign and also instantly kills the condemned? If those ends are mutually exclusive, which do we choose? Or is this just an attempt to get capital punishment abolished no matter how quickly and cleanly it can be done?

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 Posted: 11-02-2007 04:54 pm

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shirohniichan wrote: Brian wrote: If the idea is to avoid prolonged suffering of the condemned (God knows why, but let's just go with that...), then what's so wrong about a good old-fashioned double-tap to the brain??:dunno:
Too gory?

I really wonder about the objections to execution. If lethal injections take too long to work and cause "suffering", why not use a guillotine? That's too bloody? Are we looking for a means of execution that appears benign and also instantly kills the condemned? If those ends are mutually exclusive, which do we choose? Or is this just an attempt to get capital punishment abolished no matter how quickly and cleanly it can be done?


From what I understand now, the issue is that the judicial system can't improvise.  Whatever method of death they use has to be mandated by the legislature, and the legislature hasn't voted to change the method of execution yet.  Once they get back in session, they can change it to firing squad if they want to, because that's been deemed constitutional.

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 Posted: 11-02-2007 09:31 pm

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Florida has two methods of execution--electrocution and lethal injection. There were a couple of botched electrocutions in the 1990s that led the legislature to approve lethal injection as an alternative method. The inmate may choose between the two methods of execution.

The Florida Supreme Court has held that electrocution did not violate the Eighth Amendment, and the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed an appeal in a Florida electrocution case as moot after the legislature amended its law to include lethal injection as an alternative.

However, there is conflct among the state supreme courts as to whether electrocution violates the Eighth Amendment. The Georgia Supreme Court struck down the state's provision for electrocution. This leads me to believe that a U.S. Supreme Court appeal might lead to a helpful opinion.

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Here is an article from today's Ledger about Schwab's appeal. It discusses the legislative and regulatory response to the botched execution of Manny Diaz which informs the Florida Supreme Court's decision in the Schwab case.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20071102/NEWS/711020415/1039

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 Posted: 11-08-2007 12:56 am

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November 7, 2007
The Florida Supreme Court today rejected another request to postpone the execution of Mark Dean Schwab, a child killer who is set to die on Nov. 15. In 1992, Schwab was sentenced to die for the kidnap, rape and murder of 11-year-old Junny Rios-Martinez of Cocoa.

Justice Barbara J. Pariente wrote in an opinion that it should be up to the U.S. Supreme Court to issue Schwab a stay if it intends to impose "a de facto moratorium on the death penalty."

Nearly a dozen executions have been stayed across the country since the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments about lethal injection in a Kentucky case, which will likely be decided next summer. The issue is whether the protocols for administering the fatal drugs qualify as cruel and unusual punishment.

 

here is a photo of his victim. :heartbeat:

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 Posted: 11-13-2007 01:30 pm

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For parents, son's life outshines killer's fate
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Sentinel Exclusive: On Saturday, Braulio Rios-Martinez  and Vicki Rios-Martinez plan to celebrate their son Junny's life at the park named for him. Mark Dean Schwab is set to be executed Thursday for raping and strangling Junny in 1991.





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 Posted: 11-14-2007 07:18 pm

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I thought of a good scientific question we can study with this guy:

How many amps running through a human make the difference between "medium rare" and "well done"?  ::scratch::




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Brian wrote: I thought of a good scientific question we can study with this guy:

How many amps running through a human make the difference between "medium rare" and "well done"?  ::scratch::

How about seeing how long he can survive in the desert while being pursued by hunters armed with .22 LR rifles? How many shots can he endure? How far can he run?

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  A  FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS RULED SCHWAB EXECUTION CAN PROCEED TODAY.





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Lady Cop wrote:   A  FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS RULED SCHWAB EXECUTION CAN PROCEED TODAY.


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 Posted: 11-15-2007 02:45 pm

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i'll be on death watch all day, the US Supremes can still stop it.






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