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Hey, LC, I found this news story on a local TV station's website:
[url=http://http://www.local6.com/news/10697838/detail.html]http://http://www.local6.com/news/10697838/detail.html[/url]
and I was wondering - does this happen often? Over the years, I have heard that some prisoners become so accustomed to life in prison (or have spent so much time there from a young age) that they have difficulties readjusting to the real world when released. I always wondered if that was just a "made up" fact, or if it really does happen quite a bit - to the point of simply committing another crime so that they can return there.
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hi...no, it's not a myth. people become institutionalized and cannot function out in the world, obtain jobs, housing, etc. ...............another factor is many of the people i have known here in florida commit crimes when it gets cold out, so they can spend the winter months in a nice warm jail with 3 meals a day and medical care. in either case, the long-term prisoner, or the winter jailbird (as opposed to snowbird) cannot seem to make it in the 'real' world.


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Thanks for responding and for the insight, LC
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you're welcome of course Beagle! many prisons have programs to help people adjust to the 'outside' and the difficulties they will encounter. it helps a lot if they have supportive family to help them get their bearings and seek work. but many families are long-dispersed after long incarcerations. if someone has had ALL their needs met in the prison environment for years, and they are accustomed to be directed in every aspect of their lives, freedom overwhelms. and so does the culture that is different than what they knew. the 'womb' of prison beckons. it's easier. i think it is a partial explanation for high recidivism rates.


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you're welcome of course Beagle! many prisons have programs to help people adjust to the 'outside' and the difficulties they will encounter. it helps a lot if they have supportive family to help them get their bearings and seek work. but many families are long-dispersed after long incarcerations. if someone has had ALL their needs met in the prison environment for years, and they are accustomed to be directed in every aspect of their lives, freedom overwhelms. and so does the culture that is different than what they knew. the 'womb' of prison beckons. it's easier. i think it is a partial explanation for high recidivism rates.
That is very true. Seen a lot of it when I was still on the force.
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you're welcome of course Beagle! many prisons have programs to help people adjust to the 'outside' and the difficulties they will encounter. it helps a lot if they have supportive family to help them get their bearings and seek work. but many families are long-dispersed after long incarcerations. if someone has had ALL their needs met in the prison environment for years, and they are accustomed to be directed in every aspect of their lives, freedom overwhelms. and so does the culture that is different than what they knew. the 'womb' of prison beckons. it's easier. i think it is a partial explanation for high recidivism rates.
When I saw that article, I really sat and pondered it. Then I started thinking about other news articles I've read about repeat offenders and my knee jerk reaction has always been, "what an idiot," but it kind of makes sense after reading this article and thinking about what you have shared.
Of course, I've seen movies where it shows prisoners going through a program to adjust once they are released and I've heard about the programs, but I always wondered how well they actually worked. Really, if you stop and think about it and think about what you have explained above, it makes more sense.......if they do have ALL their needs met in prison for years, they become accustomed to that, dependent on that environment even - I can see how they would be overwhelmed by the sudden freedom - how unsure and insecure they probably feel when released to make decisions on their own. At times, I'm sure it may even come down to simple laziness too - as you stated it is easier - what they know versus expending the effort to make it on their own and figure out how to have their needs met in the free world.
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Risk of death high for new ex-cons, study finds


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Thanks for the article link, LC - how interesting (and sad). Seems that a large part of the problem is that the necessary programs to facilitate a transition from prison life to the outside world do not exist or, if they do exist, the programs are not adequate. I'm wondering though, if the programs were adequate, would they be effective anyway? What I mean by that is do you think that these ex-prisoners would be interested enough in them to put forth the effort to try to be successful?
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well, since you ask...i have said all the politically correct things. but some people are just plain dirtbags and will continue in their lifestyle.


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well, since you ask...i have said all the politically correct things. but some people are just plain dirtbags and will continue in their lifestyle.
Exactly (and thank you for the bluntness - I LOVE that about you - and I am not being sarcastic here)! I hate to think I am being too cynical, but that is exactly where my mind goes when thinking that there must be some solution. My first thought is always "well, it won't work because some people will never change." I've been told that I'm always so cynical; I wouldn't call it cynical as much as I would call it "realistic."
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Beagle wrote: Lady Cop wrote:
well, since you ask...i have said all the politically correct things. but some people are just plain dirtbags and will continue in their lifestyle.
Exactly (and thank you for the bluntness - I LOVE that about you - and I am not being sarcastic here)! I hate to think I am being too cynical, but that is exactly where my mind goes when thinking that there must be some solution. My first thought is always "well, it won't work because some people will never change." I've been told that I'm always so cynical; I wouldn't call it cynical as much as I would call it "realistic."
being blunt gets me in trouble....but i never said i was mary poppins. .i'm reminded of one guy...he robbed the local bank. and the next day there's a big photo of him on the front page of the paper from the bank camera. i showed my sgt. and said 'isn't that doofus'? yep....so we go right to doofus' house and arrest him. he's going to do 20 years for a hundred bucks. then he says to me, 'deputy linda, will you go out with me when i get out?' i just laughed and told him he'd need to rob another bank! LOL


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Beagle wrote: Lady Cop wrote:
well, since you ask...i have said all the politically correct things. but some people are just plain dirtbags and will continue in their lifestyle.
Exactly (and thank you for the bluntness - I LOVE that about you - and I am not being sarcastic here)! I hate to think I am being too cynical, but that is exactly where my mind goes when thinking that there must be some solution. My first thought is always "well, it won't work because some people will never change." I've been told that I'm always so cynical; I wouldn't call it cynical as much as I would call it "realistic."
being blunt gets me in trouble....but i never said i was mary poppins. .i'm reminded of one guy...he robbed the local bank. and the next day there's a big photo of him on the front page of the paper from the bank camera. i showed my sgt. and said 'isn't that doofus'? yep....so we go right to doofus' house and arrest him. he's going to do 20 years for a hundred bucks. then he says to me, 'deputy linda, will you go out with me when i get out?' i just laughed and told him he'd need to rob another bank! LOL
LOL! I can picture you saying that too - even just from the little I know of you.......LOL
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