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I was watching a program on Animal Planet last night and I saw something I had never seen before.  The show was Seven Deadly Strikes and it was about this lunatic (think Timothy Treadwell) who goes around photographing the most lethal snakes as close as he can get to them.

The man has a thick Brit accent so I can't be sure of the pronunciation of the type of snake he was referring to, and I have looked up every variation of the way this snakes "breed" sounded. 

What I had never seen was that this snake plays dead.  Just like a possum.  If you approach it, even though it is highly venomous, it will roll to its back and play dead.  I've never heard of a snake that does this and I want to learn more about them.  Typing it phonetically, the way the crazy photographer said it was Rumkov snake.  Nothing I have come up with in my incessant searching has turned up a thing about a snake that plays dead.  (Rimkov, ramkov, romcov, rumcoff, etc., etc.)

As an aside; the reason I compare this whacko with Treadwell is that while he was shooting the program he took a hit from a king cobra.  As he lay in the hospital getting the anti-venom injected into him, he said he was done, he was getting too old for this crap and yada yada.  Two hours later, he was grabbing hold of a black mamba. Is there a better way for me to search for this snake not being sure of how its name is pronounced/spelled?




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Hi, UTR.  :giantgrin:

I found the information you wanted by Googling "Seven Deadly Strikes".  Wikipedia has this information about the Rinkhals snake.  (That's the one which apparently has the ability to play dead, as well as spit venom.

Pretty cool snake, if ya ask me. ::sgrin::





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You know.....that picture looks quite a bit like the snake that was shown in the program.  But the name doesn't sound much like what I was hearing, does it?

But the similarities to what the snake in this link and the one I saw on the show look like are not likely a coincidence.  I heard pretty poorly, didn't I?

Damn, but you were fast.  Thank you.  If nothing else, it gives me a place to start learning.

But how reliable is Wikipedia?  I believe we had this conversation a while back that with the ability to edit anything there it isn't the most reliable source.

Just playing devil's advocate here.  :giantgrin:

Thank you.  I will look into this type of snake more closely.  ::thumbs::




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UsedToRide wrote: You know.....that picture looks quite a bit like the snake that was shown in the program.  But the name doesn't sound much like what I was hearing, does it?

But the similarities to what the snake in this link and the one I saw on the show look like are not likely a coincidence.  I heard pretty poorly, didn't I?

Damn, but you were fast.  Thank you.  If nothing else, it gives me a place to start learning.

But how reliable is Wikipedia?  I believe we had this conversation a while back that with the ability to edit anything there it isn't the most reliable source.

Just playing devil's advocate here.  :giantgrin:

Thank you.  I will look into this type of snake more closely.  ::thumbs::

Hi, UTR.

To be honest, I would never recommend using Wikipedia as a primary source.  I don't consider it anything more than a basic look-up device.  But the article in Wikipedia on that episode does seem to closely match what you described.

I think "Rinkhals" could sound like "Rimkov".  "Rin" could easily sound like "Rim" (especially in a thick accent) and "kals" could sound like "kov", if the person pronouncing it isn't careful.  

This page seems to corroborate what Wikipedia says about the snake, at any rate.





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I thought that was your opinion of Wiki!!

I saw the program again today and this is definitely the snake that is being shown.  Hooded like a cobra, and spits along with playing dead.  It still sounds like the crazy man is saying Rumkov, though!!

Now I can read up on this one in books.  Kinda preferable to looking up everything on the web sometimes!

Thanks for your help.  I knew you'd come through for me.  ::thumbs::  ::smoocch:: 




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Snake-handling pastor arrested
  • Story Highlights
  • Kentucky pastor one of 10 suspects arrested in crackdown against snake trade
  • More than 100 snakes, many deadly, confiscated from home in undercover sting
  • Handling snakes is practiced in a handful of fundamentalist churches
  • The practice is illegal in most states, including Kentucky



FRANKFORT, Kentucky (AP) -- The pastor of a Kentucky church that handles snakes in religious rites was among 10 people arrested by wildlife officers in a crackdown on the venomous snake trade.





Undercover officers purchased more than 200 illegal reptiles during the investigation,


More than 100 snakes, many of them deadly, were confiscated in the undercover sting after Thursday's arrests, said Col. Bob Milligan, director of law enforcement for Kentucky Fish and Wildlife.

Most were taken from the Middlesboro home of Gregory James Coots, including 42 copperheads, 11 timber rattlesnakes, three cottonmouth water moccasins, a western diamondback rattlesnake, two cobras and a puff adder.

Handling snakes is practiced in a handful of fundamentalist churches across Appalachia, based on the interpretation of Bible verses saying true believers can take up serpents without being harmed. The practice is illegal in most states, including Kentucky.

Coots, 36, is pastor of the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, where a Tennessee woman died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in 1995. Her husband died three years later when he was bitten by a snake in northeastern Alabama.

Coots was charged Thursday with buying, selling and possessing illegal reptiles. He had no listed telephone number and couldn't be reached for comment. There was no phone listing for the church.

"It is disturbing to me that individuals would keep such dangerous wildlife in their homes and in neighborhoods where they put their families, visitors and neighbors at such high risk," Milligan said.

The snakes, plus one alligator, were turned over to the nonprofit Kentucky Reptile Zoo in Slade. Most appeared to have been captured from the wild, with some imported from Asia and Africa.

Zoo Director Jim Harrison said some of the animals would likely have become exotic pets had they not been seized.

"There's been a large trade in exotics for years," he said. "Some people are just fascinated with them."

Undercover officers purchased more than 200 illegal reptiles during the investigation, some of which were advertised for sale on Web sites. One such Web site lists copperheads for $50 each and cobras for $450.

"You can purchase anything off the Internet except common sense," Harrison said. "A venomous snake isn't a pet. You don't play with it. If you do, you're an idiot."






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