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Search engines (SEs) and search engine optimization (SEO) seems to be a really basic bone of the Internet now and I was wondering, where do you see SEs in the next 10 to 20 years?  I can't help but think they will become more important across the board and I think they have potential to be highly connected to everything digital and crucial...

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24HourNut wrote: Search engines (SEs) and search engine optimization (SEO) seems to be a really basic bone of the Internet now and I was wondering, where do you see SEs in the next 10 to 20 years?  I can't help but think they will become more important across the board and I think they have potential to be highly connected to everything digital and crucial...

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I would agree and I would think that they will become more specific.  Maybe people will have job related SE.  For example a hospital could have a huge medical SE etc.
I have to say that the one that I liked most lately is this one http://www.missdewey.com.
It's definately not the best on information but it's a nice one.

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Hi Jenny! I've seen that before and I think it's very cool. I can see that type of dressing being common in the future ... and like you said, very targeted SEs, custom ones, etc. I think what I was trying to say is that I also seem them becoming much more than SEs ... something more core, so I guess I expect the name to change eventually, heh.




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Can't help thinking of Hal in that film, 2001 Space Odyssey.  :D

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Something like that, sorta. :)




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In 10 or 20 years from now? Search engines will be a thing of the past. They will be replaced by VOSC's. (Virtual Online Search Consultants)

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Search engines will be one of the first applications for artificial intelligence. It will still give you more ads than results but the results will be what you're actually looking for and the ads will be for things you might actually want to buy.

This presupposses that real machine intelligence doesn't come first or smoebody doesn't infect the web with smoething that makes it conscious.

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The first thing we're going to see is voice-activated search engines.  (Google's already got a voice-activated 411 system that can send you results to your phone.)  Then we'll get to the level where search engines can learn from previous searches what you don't want, tailoring your results.  Finally, we'll get to the point where search engines understand syntax.  This is essential to being able to get specific answers to questions without getting pages upon pages of results.  (One of the things that search engines are particularly poor at is knowing when they've answered your question.  Who wants to be presented with 5 pages of information when the first result is the one you want?

AI/consiousness doesn't really have a lot to do with "searches", per se.  All the computer needs to do is match the query with the results, and that's best done on a syntactical level, I think. 

The interesting thing will be the next level:  the "decision engine".  The task of the decision engine won't be to guide you to a specific page, but to use information on the Internet to provide you information not found on any specific page (i.e., a report based on the information searched, rather than links to the information).

For example:  If you ask the decision engine about buying a house in New Mexico, the decision engine would conduct a sort of reference interview (e.g., where you want to live, how much you want to pay, etc.) and gather for you all the relevant information (real estate brokers, listings, mortgage companies, school ratings) in one report, with a recommendation that matches your criteria.

That's where I think we could be headed, once we get a fully-indexed Web with an understanding of human language.




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I see them now more influenced and modified by a variety of various governments and agencies. So I wonder about voice activated and virtual searchers and even if you would get to real truth with "sensitive" issues. What will wars and poverty do to the internet? How about power outages and disasters? Science and technology do not continue in curved line progression, but have plateaus and stops and starts. I think we are still looking at a lot of interference.
I'll give you a personal example. I had search and found out that MDR-TB introduced by illegal aliens into the USA had killed 16,000 people in the 5 years of 2000 through 2004. I later tried to go back and it was gone. It seems obvious to me that our government does not want us to know the exact number of people dying each year from introduced diseases. My state Senator told me personally that as of 10-06 there were 40,000 American cases of it in the USA with a 60% death rate. Again, searches would not yield the real answers. Verrrrry interrrresting......


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moguitar wrote: I see them now more influenced and modified by a variety of various governments and agencies. So I wonder about voice activated and virtual searchers and even if you would get to real truth with "sensitive" issues. What will wars and poverty do to the internet? How about power outages and disasters? Science and technology do not continue in curved line progression, but have plateaus and stops and starts. I think we are still looking at a lot of interference.
I'll give you a personal example. I had search and found out that MDR-TB introduced by illegal aliens into the USA had killed 16,000 people in the 5 years of 2000 through 2004. I later tried to go back and it was gone. It seems obvious to me that our government does not want us to know the exact number of people dying each year from introduced diseases. My state Senator told me personally that as of 10-06 there were 40,000 American cases of it in the USA with a 60% death rate. Again, searches would not yield the real answers. Verrrrry interrrresting......

Getting the "real truth" on sensitive issues is always going to be a craps shoot.  Controversial issues always have multiple points of view, and the interpretation of such issues is going to be subjective, regardless of whether or not the government is involved.  In general, though, governments have been shown to be fairly powerless over the Internet.  The Chinese have been giving control their best shot, and they don't seem to be doing that well.  The "problem" (for them) will only get worse as the Internet gets more ubiquitous.  People in Africa are now getting $100 laptops.  It's only a matter of time before Internet access becomes as ubiquitous as cell phone access (which is not to say universal, but as close as possible to it).

The infrastructure for Internet access is a problem.  When you're reliant on towers and cables, your infrastructure can be taken down -- either by attack or by disasters.  The good news, though, is that the Internet was engineered to ward off this threat to the fullest extent possible.  Take down one server, and traffic gets re-routed.  The DoD designed the Internet infrastructure to be able to withsdand a global nuclear war, so it would most likely take something more massive than that to take it down.  It's hard to imagine that there will be a society capable of rebuilding anything cataclysmic enough to take down the Internet completely.

Interestingly, we're close to the end of the current computing plateau.  Quantum computing isn't that far away (relatively speaking).  I'm guessing that we'll get quite a bit of mileage out of that scale, but who knows how long that will last, once it's being mined?

 

 




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