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24HourForums.com > Supported Forums > Brian's Science & Nature Shack > I bet this is causing a stir! |
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Makarovii Original500© Member  Privyet tovarishi!
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A French Mirage IIIR also painted for a Tiger Meet.
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sumnom Original500© Member 
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That was a nice spitfire pic, Ninja. I prefer my aircract to have propellers. Were the clipped wing spits carrier based?
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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sumnom wrote: That was a nice spitfire pic, Ninja. I prefer my aircract to have propellers. Yes the seafire. Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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Makarovii Original500© Member Privyet tovarishi!
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Not all clipped wing Spits were Naval.
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Makarovii Original500© Member Privyet tovarishi!
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How about Yakovlev's masterpiece?
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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UsedToRide wrote: ROSHONNY wrote:UsedToRide wrote:It is pretty cool, eh, Ninja? From what I was told, by a man on his way over there, the boys did it all, no decals, just paint. That would be "Hungarian OWNED" not built. It IS obviously the Russian bird... but that ain't Russian markings..
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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UsedToRide wrote: Now THIS is a great shot! Check out the blurb at the bottom of the picture. Nother urban legend -- partly. That's a real photo --- But it's the result of a planned entry from aft of the carrier USS America into a maneuver for a tactical demonstration. In fact, the photo is real, but the usual caption is totally wrong. The aircraft carrier is USS America and the photo was taken in 1989, when construction of John C. Stennis had not yet begun. The pilot was CDR Dale O. Snodgrass, and he was not grounded. There's an audio tape and vidclip of this- but you have to be able to get into that part of the Navy website to see it (and no I'm NOT going to post my Navy credentials here for you. Nor am I going to grab the clip and post it elsewhere) The plane is also about 225 feet off the side of the carrier and actually flying away at an angle - CPA was back at the stern-- a standard ship-lenth, as all such maneuvers require. Compare the scale of the people in the foreground gathered around the ALRC to see that. Here is the pilots own description of his flight path: "The pilot captured in that infamous F-14 picture is Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass, USN (Ret.). Capt Snodgrass is a 26 year Navy vet, with over 1,084 carrier landings, 34 missions in Desert Storm, 6,800 flight hours in jets, 4,700 of them in the F-14 making him the most experienced F-14 pilot in the world. The resulting actions which the caption described did not take place, Capt Snodgrass was not grounded, and the maneuver did not pose any undo risk to the ship or the planes crew. Below is a quote given by “Snort” in response to questions concerning the safety of the maneuver he performed that day “It's not risky at all with practice…it was my opening pass to a Tomcat tactical demonstration at sea. I started from the starboard rear quarter of the ship, at or slightly below flight deck level. Airspeed was at about 250 knots with the wings swept forward. I selected afterburner at about 1/2 mile behind and the aircraft accelerated to about 325-330 knots. As I approached the ship, I rolled into an 85 degree angle of bank and did a 2-3 g turn, finishing about 10- 20 degrees off of the ship's axis. It was a very dramatic and, in my opinion, a very cool way to start a carrier demo. The photo was taken by an Aviation Boson's Mate who worked the flight deck on the USS America. Just as an aside...the individual with his arms behind his back is Admiral Jay Johnson, the immediate past Chief of Naval Operations for the Navy”"
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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btw-- Here's the original interview with Capt. Snodgrass: http://www.sponauer.com/snodgrass/index.html This was probably more interesting to me--- What was your most tense moment in the 26 years? From a combat perspective, it was when I had a flameout over Iraq while executing a last ditch surface-to-air missile defense. I was leading a night Fighter Sweep in support of an A-6 strike on a power plant on the north side of Baghdad. My flight had flushed a couple MiG-29’s and we were in "Hot Pursuit." My ECM and radar warning gear had been lit up like a X-Mas tree, so I was vigilant in jinking in altitude and heading, while rolling and visually checking for missile plumes. During one check, I saw a missile clearing the haze and undercast below us. We were 25-26 thousand feet at the time and the undercast was broken around 13-15 thousand. Net result...not a lot of time to see and react to a Mach 4 missile. Fortunately I was looking at the right piece of sky as the missile cleared the clouds. I immediately saw it had constant bearing and big time decreasing range. I immediately rolled the Tomcat into the missile and pulled 8-10 G’s while deploying chaff to aid in breaking the missile's radar lock. The missile exploded just above and behind me. The missile defense worked as advertised (though it was really, really close). Unfortunately the F-14 has a tendency to depart controlled flight when a very hard rolling pull is executed at high subsonic airspeeds (I was at .95-.97 IMN). It is exasperated with external stores, and I had two external fuel tanks and six missiles loaded. I was able to recover the jet quickly, but in the process I lost my right engine. The recovery had cost me almost 15,000 feet and 300 knots. I was now slow with one engine thrustless and in the middle of all that pretty Triple-A gunfire that was shown on TV every night! I was too slow to get a good airstart attempt on the engine and didn’t want to go into full afterburner on the good engine, as the only fighters with one afterburner that could be airborne that night were Iraqi! With MiG’s in the area I didn’t want to be mistaken for TARGET! I wound up going to min afterburner on the good engine, while descending deeper into Triple A "sparkles," in order to get the requisite airflow to relight the engine. Once making heat and fire again, I climbed out with both engines in full afterburner. Though obviously tense, the previous event never seemed as tense as operating around the ship at night in bad weather as your fuel gage reaches low state, compounded by problems on the flight deck, and you being number 10 for recovery. Not to mention there is no divert airfield because the nearest land is 300 miles away! One night, I was very low on fuel, the weather was terrible, and the deck was moving 15-20 feet. I was waved off twice because of a fouled deck…something that had nothing to do with me. I boltered (touched down just passed the wires) on my third try and went around for a fourth time. It was a really ugly pass…the deck was moving a lot and I was feeling more and more stress due to my rapidly dwindling fuel and no tanker available. I got it on deck with less than five minutes of fuel remaining. The thing is, though...almost every carrier pilot has a story like this. Ask any carrier aviator and they will tell you, life at the back end of the ship is one part thrill, one part chaos, and one part stress. Only the strong survive. It’s simply the toughest aviation environment in existence.
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Cool thread! Just now got curious 'nuff to go looking around differnt parts of the site and came across this thread.Guess I gots to go snooping around more often.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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sirlamre wrote:
Isn't that the way with so much web stuff? Some truth, some BS. Thanks for the correction, and I am glad to know the picture is real. 'Cuz it's a COOl picture!
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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UsedToRide wrote: sirlamre wrote: Yup --- definitely a COOL pic Thanks for posting it!
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